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Old 12-20-2013, 01:38 AM   #18931
Johann XR650R
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I remember one time after I had the carb completely apart and struggled hardcore to start it. Ended up being idle screw being turned out way too far, even thigh it seemed right. Started at half throttle, the. I knew it was way off. That's all I got for you.

Good day Mitch.
I got the pig started! yeaha. but she then idles for a short while then dies. Could it be that the float level is off? its really freaky. Today i changed back to stock tank. then tried it again. Same story. started on second kick, idles for a about 1min then died. Now i cannot get her started! aarrrggghhh not sure what else to check.

is she maybe running too lean and this then heats her up? not sure 1min would not overheat her....




Mine will run for quite some time with the taps turned off - certainly more than a minute
Put a rag under the carby, take the float bowl cap off (inspect for foreign matter while it's off) and turn on the taps fuel should flow out freely.
If not find out why
If it does its doubtfull a float level issue

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Cool thanx JM

I took carb off again today, checked for obvious airbox boot leaks. cleaned out all breather pipes, cleaned out jets and float needle seat.

I just had lunch, will start her afterwards, it feels like school final exams waiting for report card hoping that you passed. the proof will be a happy leg. i.e. she starts easily.

PS re-checked valve clearances again. was in spec.

Thank you all for advice will let you know shortly ( JM and Mitch) and the rest.

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Old 12-20-2013, 01:44 AM   #18932
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Good job.

Well done she looks impressive!

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Old 12-20-2013, 01:53 AM   #18933
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When I stand up for extended periods I find I have to bend over too far. As a result, Im looking at adding some hi-rise bars to my XR such as ATV bars with a 4.5" rise and perhaps a handlebar riser.

How high can I go before the cables need replacing?
Whats the highest other people are running?
I use Rox raisers the ones that pivot. If you just use std raisers it cramps the cockpit as the bars moves closer to you. you need something that will raise it and move it away from you.

rox-speed-fx-pivoting-handlebar-risers ( need to turn throttle so that the cables enter at the bottum instead of the top, to ensure stock cables reach.



See if can get the dealer to give you a trail run before buying it.

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Old 12-20-2013, 02:33 AM   #18934
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Cool thanx JM

I took carb off again today, checked for obvious airbox boot leaks. cleaned out all breather pipes, cleaned out jets and float needle seat.

I just had lunch, will start her afterwards, it feels like school final exams waiting for report card hoping that you passed. the proof will be a happy leg. i.e. she starts easily.

PS re-checked valve clearances again. was in spec.

Thank you all for advice will let you know shortly ( JM and Mitch) and the rest.

Johann
YOOOYAAA! it worked she starts!

not sure what it was. it may have been the idle screw set to low. or it may have been a clogged breather hose! she runs! seemingly with no hick-ups! and restarts!

I cannot remember when i prayed so much for something to work!

Thank you all for advice!

Hope you all have a good week-end and post many riding pics. and trip reports on monday!

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Old 12-20-2013, 04:35 AM   #18935
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YOOOYAAA! it worked she starts!



not sure what it was. it may have been the idle screw set to low. or it may have been a clogged breather hose! she runs! seemingly with no hick-ups! and restarts!



I cannot remember when i prayed so much for something to work!



Thank you all for advice!



Hope you all have a good week-end and post many riding pics. and trip reports on monday!



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Old 12-20-2013, 06:29 AM   #18936
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I have gotten as much as 44 all street mpg.. and as low as 12mpg in the dunes
I run under 2000ft elevation.
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I would drilling holes in the side panel help? I really don't want to but if helps then I'll do it.
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Old 12-20-2013, 06:33 AM   #18937
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I would drilling holes in the side panel help? I really don't want to but if helps then I'll do it.
I don't believe that it's beneficial on a stock motor.

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Old 12-20-2013, 06:34 AM   #18938
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Both my truck wipers broke this morning had to take the xr.

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Old 12-20-2013, 07:31 AM   #18939
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Is that the police coming to take you away in the white van? I would assume so, because obviously you are nuts.

I did that once, rode to work in 20 degree weather. I was so cold and f'ed up by the time I got to work I was worthless the rest of the day.

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Both my truck wipers broke this morning had to take the xr.

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Old 12-20-2013, 07:34 AM   #18940
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When I stand up for extended periods I find I have to bend over too far. As a result, Im looking at adding some hi-rise bars to my XR such as ATV bars with a 4.5" rise and perhaps a handlebar riser.

How high can I go before the cables need replacing?
Whats the highest other people are running?

I think at 1.5" you will run out of cable, but that is basically just a guess.

I have mine bumped up a bit with risers and bigh bend bars. After some rerouting, I only needed longer throttle cables. The Motion Pro replacement cables are longer than stock and work.
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Old 12-20-2013, 07:53 AM   #18941
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Is that the police coming to take you away in the white van? I would assume so, because obviously you are nuts.

I did that once, rode to work in 20 degree weather. I was so cold and f'ed up by the time I got to work I was worthless the rest of the day.
That's one of the vans at work. I work at Sherwin Williams

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Old 12-20-2013, 09:13 AM   #18942
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I think at 1.5" you will run out of cable, but that is basically just a guess.

I have mine bumped up a bit with risers and bigh bend bars. After some rerouting, I only needed longer throttle cables. The Motion Pro replacement cables are longer than stock and work.
I had to reroute the compression release after mounting risers,it was shutting the engine off.
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Old 12-20-2013, 09:28 AM   #18943
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I had to reroute the compression release after mounting risers,it was shutting the engine off.

Me too, I was a bit puzzled at first when the bike kept dying when making sharp left turns.
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Old 12-20-2013, 09:31 AM   #18944
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I know this has been hashed before, but I am really considering a elec start if I could find one that works reliably. I have been getting injections in my knees for last 2 years and if I get to a flooded start like last night(guess float bowl hung?)My knee is worthless today and I am limping around like a paraplegic! Most of the time it has not been an issue2 or 3 kicks it runs. Last night 20 plus and and would not run I really don't want to send on to other pastures cause just not a whole lot out there I want to come back with
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Old 12-20-2013, 09:44 AM   #18945
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I know this has been hashed before, but I am really considering a elec start if I could find one that works reliably. I have been getting injections in my knees for last 2 years and if I get to a flooded start like last night(guess float bowl hung?)My knee is worthless today and I am limping around like a paraplegic! Most of the time it has not been an issue2 or 3 kicks it runs. Last night 20 plus and and would not run I really don't want to send on to other pastures cause just not a whole lot out there I want to come back with
Time to get a te610 or ktm 690 or 530

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