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Old 05-22-2012, 10:47 AM   #13321
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Rider's Manual?

I just picked up a 2003 XR650R. I've downloaded the service manual, but can't find any reference to a Riders manual or Operator's handbook. Was there ever one? If there was, does anyone know where or how to obtain it?

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Old 05-22-2012, 11:18 AM   #13322
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I just picked up a 2003 XR650R. I've downloaded the service manual, but can't find any reference to a Riders manual or Operator's handbook. Was there ever one? If there was, does anyone know where or how to obtain it?

TIA

John

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Old 05-22-2012, 01:23 PM   #13323
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XRx, Thanks for the link --- ordered one!

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Old 05-22-2012, 01:37 PM   #13324
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I figured out what the rack is for today!
If I am thinking what you are laughing about - he's darn slow ain't he? Geewiz, couldn't keep my hands off them since puberty, but maybe that's just me.


Zeroblah,

anyone lacing wheels uses a stand - which very easily allows to center the rim. If done incorrectly (off center) the remedy is easy too, just re-tension the left & right hand spokes (release 1 side, then re-tension the lot). Very little readjustment is needed, as said easy to do/correct for someone who's done this before. I fact one can even do this whilst in the forks, just use some putty and a welding stick on a forkleg as a pointer is all you need.


Moose,

Europe's big - Moscow, Barcelona, Reykjavik or Prague? Also, going 'overland' you're going to have to swim a lot
I don't want to sound stupid but you're gonna ride a LOT (read: 'all') of mileage through totally alien territory - you're sure you want a high/fast gearing? Put it this way, go up to 160km/hr and you will save, oh, the grand total of 1 day only if you're lucky, on the entire trip? I'd not do it, but that's just me. The Cannonball's in the US eh, not in Turkey or Pakistan.
Sean's a loony and a daredevil (no offense Ozzi), plus he rides for him known territory. I'm with yer mate here
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Old 05-22-2012, 01:48 PM   #13325
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Hey BuRPsa,

technically it is going to be Kiel (Northern Germany) to Perth via Turkey, Iran, Pakistan, India, Nepal or Burma, Thailand, Indonesia and those in between. Yeah, includes swimming, but not too much. ;) Island hopping will do in Indonesia.
You got me wrong - I am absolutely not into high speed highway whatsoever. On the contrary. Just looking for nice and easy cruising on around 100kph on roads and the option for lower gearing (smaller sprocket) nice and easy to take on the rather rough stuff. But, if I like it or not, Piggy (called her Agnes ^^) will have to sit on bitumen for quite a few thousand klicks, so she'll better be up to it, don't you think?
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Old 05-22-2012, 06:39 PM   #13326
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Hey folks,

first post, lots of reading to look back at. Thanks for that.

Got myself a nice piggy, planning to take it from Europe to Australia overland, starting next March.
Will get some nice farkles (steel subframe might be the most important one...) and have a summer to set it all up to my needs.

Anyhow, I am having a bit of a struggle about nice gearing for long distance - any recommendations?

So far my plan is to go with a 45ish rear and 16 front (=15/41=Aussie version) and then just swap front sprockets on the fly as needed.

Would you reckon this too high? There is a lot of road riding to do, although we plan to avoid highways.
Found that nice little gearing calc a few hundred pages back - but whats the revs piggy feels most comfy at?
My mate (who is going on a TT600S) always goes on about not gearing it too high so she doesn't get overstretched when starting up with luggage... which makes me remember to do the suspension...
You will be riding with a bike with less power(yamaha tt600) and similar gearing
The 650r clutch does not have as much tolerance to slipping for long periods . but has a great clutch for slipping for short periods.
It overheats fairly quick
I gear for California freeway 16/40 gearing and run around 70mph at 4500 rpm, I have tried near all lower gear combos and found it best for me.(smoothest) I run a Shanko 705 rear tire its smaller than most knobies

Its Very easy to holeshot with when at 290 lbs of load (rider and gear)
off road on fire trails public accesses roads. desert roads , near any two tracker trail. it gets it done no problem
only problem with this gearing is in slow sections you may need to slip the clutch for long periods ,and that might causes a possible clutch blow out.
Some people find it a overwhelming to operate the clutch to control power? its just not as controllable as when geared lower in tricky sections.

I would definitely gear it higher than the TT600.

Sounds like a great ride plan and a great bike to do it with, take your camera and take us with you,
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Old 05-23-2012, 12:12 AM   #13327
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You will be riding with a bike with less power(yamaha tt600) and similar gearing
Sounds like a great ride plan and a great bike to do it with, take your camera and take us with you,
Will do. My roomie ist just building our website, www.thereandbackagain.eu (not so cheesy version: tabain.eu). Might take another two weeks or three months for him to get his job done, I'll keep you posted.
There will be shit loads of photos, I'm a little into that sort of thing...
We'll be visiting SOS Children's Villages on the way and do some docu about them, so might be an interesting read after all.
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Old 05-23-2012, 04:20 AM   #13328
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Musky,

sounds like a darn nice trip ahead of you's. Especially the hopping onto Indonesian Islands is, was wondering how you plan on doing this - ferries? There is an inmate here living there, forgot his name, you should contact him I suggest.
In any case, what's your timetable like, fixed or open? And budget, what allows it for accommodation wise? Cheap camping or affordable lodging?
The best from my side, and keep us indeed posted, pics are nice to look at too.
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Old 05-23-2012, 12:31 PM   #13329
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Yep, ferries it is. We're both heading for uni in Perth, WA, taking a year abroad. Which leads to the money question - being poor students tent or hammock is as comfy as it gets... at least for the pricier countries.
We first planned the trip quite tightly for 4,5 months, leaving Octobre and starting uni in Feb, but my mate screwed some French exam and got dropped out of courses until next semester, which takes us to March. Uni still starts in February, so there's more time now (maybe for Cambodia) and we roughly plan to get to Perth in August, work a bit and use the cash to trip Oz. There's a certain ship I lived on for a while (www.duyfken.com) I plan to do some volunteering for again. And we'll be visiting SOS Children's Villages on the way, doing a bit of geo-journalism (me being a geography student and wannabe photographer... ) so that might take a few more days, too.

Around August '14 I'll find myself and Agnes a cheap Boat heading East, hoping to find the time for the Americas and get back to Europe. But that's not planned yet and won't be any time soon, got a year for that in Australia.
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Old 05-23-2012, 05:55 PM   #13330
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This is weird...my 650R has never consumed oil really until I checked it today. It was at 1/3 of the dipstick's hatch marks. I don't think the bike burns that much oil. I did notice greasy/oily dirt on the frame near the left foot peg. I thought it was from the chain grease, but could it be leaking from the countershaft since I have been doing a lot of WOT desert sprinting stuff recently?

Bike is an '01 and have heard the seal was changed in later models.
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:01 PM   #13331
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I've had a few XR650's. The only time I've noticed any significant oil consumption is when I had to do 60 miles at highway speed. Maybe blowing out the crankcase vent? I'm not sure.
On/off throttle in the desert doesn't seem to burn much oil.
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:14 PM   #13332
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I've had a few XR650's. The only time I've noticed any significant oil consumption is when I had to do 60 miles at highway speed. Maybe blowing out the crankcase vent? I'm not sure.
On/off throttle in the desert doesn't seem to burn much oil.
Yeah it's really weird. I have also done dune-type hill climbing, and WOT straight up hill climbing. Maybe my oil has broken down, it felt thin.

The crankcase vent can be pinched between the seat and airbox or subframe, causing base pressure to blow out the countershaft seal. Not a common problem, but happens enough for me to mention it here.

Hmm, my wiring/dual sport battery is pretty stuffed under the seat. That's where it's at right?
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Old 05-23-2012, 07:10 PM   #13333
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Vent hose was fine. Opened the air box and it seemed there was quite a bit of oil being blown out the vent. edit: I worded that bad. Really not that much oil. I can tell it's "wet" from the oil though, but it's not like a puddle and it's not leaking out rubber drain thing. My filter isn't drenched either.

What next? I think I have good compression. Tons of power, and I can stand on the kickstarter. edit: reading up on it, ugh, this could be ugly. I think I am going to keep an eye on it and if it continues or gets worse, check out my piston, valves, rings, etc.

Double post but I figured an edit would go unnoticed

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Old 05-23-2012, 07:56 PM   #13334
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Hey all!
This website is great and I seem to learn something new about the BRP everytime I read this thread. Thought I would finally post some pics about my XR adventure project but it seems that it needs to be from an http//: or something? Any chance I could get some help please? Thanks
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Old 05-23-2012, 08:09 PM   #13335
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Hey all!
This website is great and I seem to learn something new about the BRP everytime I read this thread. Thought I would finally post some pics about my XR adventure project but it seems that it needs to be from an http//: or something? Any chance I could get some help please? Thanks

Upload your pics to a host like Photobucket then copy and paste them .
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