Classic style bike. new Triumph or Ducati? - Page 6

NativeSon · 12-07-2008, 11:49 AM

i took a 1800 mile trip with my dad and brother. we took my r1150r, my r90, and rented a bonnie. the triumph was only fun for me the first day. in fact, i refused to get on it towards the end. i hated the riding position, and hated the seat. it actually reminded me a lot of a beginner bike. not too much power, easy to maneuver, light, low to the ground, etc....we were only getting about 175 miles to a tank. i'm not sure if every bonneville does this, or if we just got the rental fleet's beater, but the bike was leaking out of every orifice, nook and cranny. it does have good throttle response, but does not have enough power for touring, or being two up. the clutch was super soft compared to my bikes, but i was also amazed at how easily the clutch cable could be damaged mounted on the transmission. it seemed so vulnerable. i love the styling. if i had a wife or girlfriend that wanted a bike, i think that's what i'd buy for them, but it was not for me.

its an around town, ride to brunch on sunday mornings kind of bike. i wouldn't even use it as a commuter because i'm not sure how much luggage it could carry. i also can't imagine two up riding very long.

i love the ducati although i've never ridden one. i do agree the space between the rear fender and wheel are odd, but I would love to see some leather saddle bags remedy that. and can someone tell me why the discontinued red this year on the gt1000?

Terrytori · 12-07-2008, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nycs10011

Think it would be possible to get the clip on bars on the Classic?

If you're talking about the Ducati Sport Classic 1000 and Sport 1000 Sport,
they both come with clip ons. The GT will accomodate ( with a little drilling)
Norman Hyde M Bars available @ www.newbonneville.com

bfd70 · 12-07-2008, 01:27 PM

just checked out your hit and run photos. you look like a big fella. keep in mind that the bonnie is, by todays standards, a small bike. It fits me fine, at 5'10" 165#. If your 6'3" 220# I might skip it.

sbn · 12-07-2008, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bfd70

just checked out your hit and run photos. you look like a big fella. keep in mind that the bonnie is, by todays standards, a small bike. It fits me fine, at 5'10" 165#. If your 6'3" 220# I might skip it.

I'm 6 feet and 202 lbs... Its my concern that these bikes might feel small for me.

bfd70 · 12-07-2008, 02:15 PM

sounds valid. a test ride is in order.

sbn · 12-07-2008, 02:45 PM

with the size issue in mind. Does anyone have a picture of one of these classics with a person on it or next to it who is apx. 6 feet tall?

I have seen pics with both bikes and poeple but its hard to tell how tall the people are on those pics.

Terrytori · 12-07-2008, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sbn

I'm 6 feet and 202 lbs... Its my concern that these bikes might feel small for me.

6 feet 240... they're fine.

sbn · 12-07-2008, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terrytori

6 feet 240... they're fine.

sounds good

High_Side · 12-07-2008, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terrytori

Well... that should supply you with an excellent apples and oranges
comaparison. Pay attention to the Sporty's suspension... or perhaps better
expressed... lack thereof.

Having owned the Ducati, you can expect "lack thereof" as well.

Duck_Pilot · 12-07-2008, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sbn

with the size issue in mind. Does anyone have a picture of one of these classics with a person on it or next to it who is apx. 6 feet tall?

I have seen pics with both bikes and poeple but its hard to tell how tall the people are on those pics.

I'm an old-phart, 6'-1" and 225#. The GT-1000's riding position suits me just fine, with just a bit of reach forward to the handlebars. The pegs are fine. But to each his/her own.......some will love it, others piss-n-moan.

Terrytori · 12-08-2008, 04:09 AM

Originally Posted by Terrytori
Well... that should supply you with an excellent apples and oranges
comaparison. Pay attention to the Sporty's suspension... or perhaps better
expressed... lack thereof.

Quote:

Originally Posted by High_Side

Having owned the Ducati, you can expect "lack thereof" as well.

I spent a few days on a Paul Smart and found it lacking not at all .
That's because it came with an Ohlins set up right out of the box.
I plan on throwing a set on my new Sport 1000 S before taking delivery
in February.

High_Side · 12-08-2008, 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terrytori

Originally Posted by Terrytori
Well... that should supply you with an excellent apples and oranges
comaparison. Pay attention to the Sporty's suspension... or perhaps better
expressed... lack thereof.

I spent a few days on a Paul Smart and found it lacking not at all .
That's because it came with an Ohlins set up right out of the box.
I plan on throwing a set on my new Sport 1000 S before taking delivery
in February.

Huge difference between the Ohlins set up on the Smart and boingers on the GT. Ducati equipt the GT with the best suspension that $5 could buy!

ManitouMike · 12-08-2008, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sbn

yes that MG v7 cafe looks very nice. Is that one in the dealers like the v7 classic?

Not yet but the v7 classics are in. Seat and bar change converts. Only know of white ones in, the black ones look wicked.

sbn · 12-08-2008, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManitouMike

Not yet but the v7 classics are in. Seat and bar change converts. Only know of white ones in, the black ones look wicked.

havent seen one in black. I like the white one black could be cool too

Steve G. · 12-08-2008, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by High_Side

Huge difference between the Ohlins set up on the Smart and boingers on the GT. Ducati equipt the GT with the best suspension that $5 could buy!

Ducati spent their $5 suspension budget better than Thriumph did with their $5 on the Bonnevilles.
Steve

12-07-2008, 11:49 AM	#76
NativeSon Beastly Adventurer Joined: Feb 2006 Location: Frisco, Co/Fort Lauderdale, FL Oddometer: 6,661	different strokes, different folks...... i took a 1800 mile trip with my dad and brother. we took my r1150r, my r90, and rented a bonnie. the triumph was only fun for me the first day. in fact, i refused to get on it towards the end. i hated the riding position, and hated the seat. it actually reminded me a lot of a beginner bike. not too much power, easy to maneuver, light, low to the ground, etc....we were only getting about 175 miles to a tank. i'm not sure if every bonneville does this, or if we just got the rental fleet's beater, but the bike was leaking out of every orifice, nook and cranny. it does have good throttle response, but does not have enough power for touring, or being two up. the clutch was super soft compared to my bikes, but i was also amazed at how easily the clutch cable could be damaged mounted on the transmission. it seemed so vulnerable. i love the styling. if i had a wife or girlfriend that wanted a bike, i think that's what i'd buy for them, but it was not for me. its an around town, ride to brunch on sunday mornings kind of bike. i wouldn't even use it as a commuter because i'm not sure how much luggage it could carry. i also can't imagine two up riding very long. i love the ducati although i've never ridden one. i do agree the space between the rear fender and wheel are odd, but I would love to see some leather saddle bags remedy that. and can someone tell me why the discontinued red this year on the gt1000? NativeSon screwed with this post 12-07-2008 at 11:55 AM

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12-07-2008, 01:27 PM	#78
bfd70 Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2007 Location: Cook county illinois Oddometer: 467	just checked out your hit and run photos. you look like a big fella. keep in mind that the bonnie is, by todays standards, a small bike. It fits me fine, at 5'10" 165#. If your 6'3" 220# I might skip it.

12-07-2008, 02:15 PM	#80
bfd70 Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2007 Location: Cook county illinois Oddometer: 467	sounds valid. a test ride is in order.

12-07-2008, 02:45 PM	#81
sbn ^OP Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jan 2007 Location: Malmö, Sweden Oddometer: 485	with the size issue in mind. Does anyone have a picture of one of these classics with a person on it or next to it who is apx. 6 feet tall? I have seen pics with both bikes and poeple but its hard to tell how tall the people are on those pics.