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Old 06-25-2011, 01:30 PM   #136
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  • Secondly I have a motorcycle License in India, also got the IDP done, Will I be allowed to ride even something like Kawa Ninja 250/Hyosung GT250 kinda bikes which I believe is like beginners/under18 learners bike in Europe, I am 26 and as of now I want to see NL/Europe on something which can take me places with min expense ? (Student remember !)
As far as I know, you have to get a Dutch licence after 6 months - the IDP is just a translation of your licence - and since you don't come from one of the countries listed here, you can't exchange yours or use it after 6 months. The only way around it I know of is to be here as a kennismigrant, a knowledge worker, as they can just exchange their licences, but I don't think you are in that category as a student. I'd ask your university to be sure, but I did a quick google search and it sounds like students fall under normal rules.

It's not a fun process (as a Canadian resident through marriage, my licence isn't valid either and I'm in the midst of it) - it involves a theory test (in Dutch, or you have to pay for a translator and arrange a special exam - they do the car theory test in English, but not motorcycle), then a skills test and then a road test. You have to go through a driving school for the two riding tests, and usually need lessons as well in order to practice the very specific skills exercises and prep for the road test. Not cheap. On the upside, you would be able to ride anything - you only have to get a "light" licence if you're under a certain age.

One question I've been wondering about, but don't have an answer for, is whether a foreign licence is valid in EU (outside of the Netherlands) while one is resident in the Netherlands, i.e., could I transport my bike to the border (or store it over the border) and then ride legally on my Canadian licence, since I'm then a tourist in their country and have a valid licence? I'm not sure how insurance would work then (maybe get someone else to insure it?), but I have been pondering it. Probably not helpful for you, but I thought I'd throw it out there anyway. Or maybe it would be helpful, if you were renting bikes in other countries, since as a tourist your licence would be valid. It's such a silly system.

And, to get a sense of used bike prices, your best bet is probably Marktplaats. Also handy for a wide variety of other things you may need while you're here.

Hope that helps and good luck!
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Old 06-26-2011, 09:14 PM   #137
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As far as I know, you have to get a Dutch licence after 6 months - the IDP is just a translation of your licence - and since you don't come from one of the countries listed here, you can't exchange yours or use it after 6 months. The only way around it I know of is to be here as a kennismigrant, a knowledge worker, as they can just exchange their licences, but I don't think you are in that category as a student. I'd ask your university to be sure, but I did a quick google search and it sounds like students fall under normal rules.

It's not a fun process (as a Canadian resident through marriage, my licence isn't valid either and I'm in the midst of it) - it involves a theory test (in Dutch, or you have to pay for a translator and arrange a special exam - they do the car theory test in English, but not motorcycle), then a skills test and then a road test. You have to go through a driving school for the two riding tests, and usually need lessons as well in order to practice the very specific skills exercises and prep for the road test. Not cheap. On the upside, you would be able to ride anything - you only have to get a "light" licence if you're under a certain age.

One question I've been wondering about, but don't have an answer for, is whether a foreign licence is valid in EU (outside of the Netherlands) while one is resident in the Netherlands, i.e., could I transport my bike to the border (or store it over the border) and then ride legally on my Canadian licence, since I'm then a tourist in their country and have a valid licence? I'm not sure how insurance would work then (maybe get someone else to insure it?), but I have been pondering it. Probably not helpful for you, but I thought I'd throw it out there anyway. Or maybe it would be helpful, if you were renting bikes in other countries, since as a tourist your licence would be valid. It's such a silly system.

And, to get a sense of used bike prices, your best bet is probably Marktplaats. Also handy for a wide variety of other things you may need while you're here.

Hope that helps and good luck!
Thanks for the reply.

Kinda Disappointed to be honest seeing that the Motorcycle License test is in Dutch becoz I am nowhere close to speaking dutch and a written TEST in Dutch will be overload ....Only next suitable option is to have a translator and get through the written test, hopefully will clear the skills and road test without .....But will this be good enough to ride anything of any size anywhere in Europe?

How much does a Motorcycle and Car DL test cost (inclusive of everything) ? How long does it take to get one ? (Btb a translator will cost 170Euros)

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Old 06-27-2011, 12:11 AM   #138
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Old 06-27-2011, 04:49 AM   #139
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But will this be good enough to ride anything of any size anywhere in Europe?
Yes. And I think with your Indian licence you could ride outside the Netherlands, but I'm not sure of that. Does anyone else know?

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Hard to say, depends. It takes a while to get a written test date (though not sure how it works with a translater, I did it in Dutch, but I've studied the language in order to be inburgered and been here almost four years). And yes, you now have to use an approved translator and it costs lots. As for lessons and tests, the first test, Motor vortuigbeheersing (skills), is €46 and the second, Motor verkeersdeelname (traffic), is €107.75, but the schools often add costs, and you have to do it through the riding school. Riding lessons vary, but I've found many are about €45/hour (also look at how long the lessons are). You can find schools in your area here - in Dutch of course, but Google translate should handle it. They have the pass percentages (slaagkans) for each school listed for each of the two motorcycle tests. As for time frame, nothing here happens quickly, but it depends on how busy your instructor is and what exam dates he can get and how many lessons you need. If you want to practice the skills before you come, they're listed on this pdf, in Dutch of course, but with diagrams.
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Old 06-28-2011, 12:50 AM   #140
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Old 06-28-2011, 08:53 AM   #141
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Yes. And I think with your Indian licence you could ride outside the Netherlands, but I'm not sure of that. Does anyone else know?



Hard to say, depends. It takes a while to get a written test date (though not sure how it works with a translater, I did it in Dutch, but I've studied the language in order to be inburgered and been here almost four years). And yes, you now have to use an approved translator and it costs lots. As for lessons and tests, the first test, Motor vortuigbeheersing (skills), is €46 and the second, Motor verkeersdeelname (traffic), is €107.75, but the schools often add costs, and you have to do it through the riding school. Riding lessons vary, but I've found many are about €45/hour (also look at how long the lessons are). You can find schools in your area here - in Dutch of course, but Google translate should handle it. They have the pass percentages (slaagkans) for each school listed for each of the two motorcycle tests. As for time frame, nothing here happens quickly, but it depends on how busy your instructor is and what exam dates he can get and how many lessons you need. If you want to practice the skills before you come, they're listed on this pdf, in Dutch of course, but with diagrams.
Thanks for all the info... Guess I need to make few changes to my strategies and do as much (RIDES) as possible before the 6 month existing DL validity time period gets over ... And in the mean time I need to get all set for a Test ( with translator as I doubt if i can manage a Dutch written test in 6 months )
can I take somebody I know who knows Dutch ?

Went through your blog... You must be longing to ride long as not much has happened since last post or is it that it hasnt been put up on the blog ? Anyhow catch u all sometime in Netherlands as it a small country u still have ur BMW and Ninja ?( NL or Canada ?)

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can I take somebody I know who knows Dutch ?
Not anymore, unfortunately. I think you used to be able to but they changed it (I was originally planning on taking my husband before I spoke as much Dutch). Now it has to be a recognized/certified someone I think. Yeah, here. They don't make it easy. I would still check with your school as to what applies under your visa, just to be sure before doing all this stuff.

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Went through your blog... You must be longing to ride long as not much has happened since last post or is it that it hasnt been put up on the blog ? Anyhow catch u all sometime in Netherlands as it a small country u still have ur BMW and Ninja ?( NL or Canada ?)
Still have the BMW, need to get it on the road here, sold the Ninja when I left Canada, need to sell the scooter still once I get it on the road. I haven't updated that blog in a while - been really busy, now have two young kids, bought a house last summer and completely re-did it (though still have stuff to so), and looking for work. But yeah, I've still got some travelling stories to add in when I get a chance (my 3.5 year old has been to 15 countries, the 16 month old to 8). Nothing on a bike though, hoping to get my licence, get my bike back on the road and get at least one trip in this summer without my family. And, yes, the not riding is driving me nuts. And yeah, get in touch when you get here :)
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Not anymore, unfortunately. I think you used to be able to but they changed it (I was originally planning on taking my husband before I spoke as much Dutch). Now it has to be a recognized/certified someone I think. Yeah, here. They don't make it easy. I would still check with your school as to what applies under your visa, just to be sure before doing all this stuff.



Still have the BMW, need to get it on the road here, sold the Ninja when I left Canada, need to sell the scooter still once I get it on the road. I haven't updated that blog in a while - been really busy, now have two young kids, bought a house last summer and completely re-did it (though still have stuff to so), and looking for work. But yeah, I've still got some travelling stories to add in when I get a chance (my 3.5 year old has been to 15 countries, the 16 month old to 8). Nothing on a bike though, hoping to get my licence, get my bike back on the road and get at least one trip in this summer without my family. And, yes, the not riding is driving me nuts. And yeah, get in touch when you get here :)
3.5 years old Sprocket has been to 15 countries and 16 month old has been to 8 countries , Europe is indeed a traveler's paradise. It seems very few who are active on this regional forum. But found some interesting places to buy stuff for start. Sure will get in touch once I get there. Hope you make that trip in Summer "as per Plan" :)

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Old 06-30-2011, 04:31 AM   #144
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Also singing in. I'm Ard, living in Rotterdam.
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Did Scotland last year and this year a round trip through Poland, Ukraine, Moldova, Romania, Slovakia, Hungary, Czech Republic and Germany. Close to 6500 km

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Also singing in. I'm Ard, living in Rotterdam.
My ride is a 1150GS, 11 years old.
Did Scotland last year and this year a round trip through Poland, Ukraine, Moldova, Romania, Slovakia, Hungary, Czech Republic and Germany. Close to 6500 km

See ya !
Wow thats quite a lot of places and of course distance especially on a 11year 1150 GS. You must have quite a lot of memories with that bike. Went through your thread , You were the youngest @44 ..wow ..... havent found time to complete the thread ?? I see u went to Ukraine and that't the end. Waiting for more pics if you got ;) few more

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I did it in Dutch on a few other forums and now a short version in English.
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I did it in Dutch on a few other forums and now a short version in English.
Just stumbled over this topic. Easy to miss, The Netherlands might be a tiny little kingdom, but it is rather larger than the Amsterdam City Limits.

YaYaBiko... your avatar says it all... Another bl*dy tourist who thinks Amsterdam ís the Netherlands... ;) No worries, Mate. Come over to visit us here in the North Eastern parts of The Netherlands and enjoy non- closed dirtroads and non-traffic-congested countryroads!

So... remove the Amsterdam part, remain the NL part... OK?

Tnx from Top of Holland, Ommelanderwijk, Groningen province.
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Just stumbled over this topic. Easy to miss, The Netherlands might be a tiny little kingdom, but it is rather larger than the Amsterdam City Limits.

YaYaBiko... your avatar says it all... Another bl*dy tourist who thinks Amsterdam ís the Netherlands... ;) No worries, Mate. Come over to visit us here in the North Eastern parts of The Netherlands and enjoy non- closed dirtroads and non-traffic-congested countryroads!

So... remove the Amsterdam part, remain the NL part... OK?

Tnx from Top of Holland, Ommelanderwijk, Groningen province.
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Hi Russindian,

20 minutes from Assen. 45 on one of your bikes... Dutch ADV member-meetup would be nice.

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