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Old 12-12-2012, 06:23 PM   #901
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I'm kind of a middle weight at 175#, so a little diet wouldn't hurt me either (good lord, I sound like the missus). If I rode more, I'd eat less

What I wanna know is how does either set of mods (no flies vs no flies and PC vs reflash) change the economy. If Guhl keeps the eco mode but a PC doesn't, then is there a real world difference? I consider the bike to be rather efficient in stock form and I'd like to hear what you guys are experiencing with mods. It also seems like a pipe would only help if bike is as rich from factory as claimed, kind of a balance to the fuel mix. So, pipe isn't big part of efficiency equation but certainly helps performance. Correct my if I'm going in the wrong direction here.

In all truth, it doesn't matter too much unless it is drastic fuel efficiency change. I enjoyed good economy on my GS when on long rides and if I want mega economy I can ride the WRX or buy a SilverWing. The Connie is not meant to be an econobike but it it does really well.

Mostly just curious and trying not to eyeball the ribeye sitting in the fridge, right next to the Fat Tire Winter Ale and the German Chocolate Cake, all conspiring to lower my HP rating.
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Old 12-13-2012, 05:04 AM   #902
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What I wanna know is how does either set of mods (no flies vs no flies and PC vs reflash) change the economy. If Guhl keeps the eco mode but a PC doesn't, then is there a real world difference? I consider the bike to be rather efficient in stock form and I'd like to hear what you guys are experiencing with mods. It also seems like a pipe would only help if bike is as rich from factory as claimed, kind of a balance to the fuel mix. So, pipe isn't big part of efficiency equation but certainly helps performance. Correct my if I'm going in the wrong direction here.
The PC doesn't remove your Eco mapping either. But since it intercepts the computers signals to the injectors and modifys them, I would assume it affects the Eco mapping, just as it does the regular mapping.

Part of why I'm a fan on reflashing. You get into the main computer and alter it to suit your needs. That way everything else stays completely stock and you don;t have to mess with anything else.

Also, keep in mind that a PC, only affects injector timing, it will not alter the opening rate of the flies. Which is why most people who install a PC, remove the flies. The reflash opens the flies all the way much sooner, yet still retaining their functions for other aspects.

I really doubt you'd be disappointed in a reflash.
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:24 PM   #903
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I love it when a plan comes together!

I took my time tonight and did the following:

Installed my PCV with maps from Fuelmoto
Went off without a hitch. I took my time and took the left side fairing off. The only real challenging part of this was fishing out the wiring harness from under the throttle bodies. However, it went together perfectly. I placed the PCV unit inside the glove compartment since I want access to the USB should I need it. However, it's always possible to pull the glove compartment and move it since the cover is only held by 2 screws. I had fuel-moto install a fuel map for pulled flies and a slip-on CS One exhaust.

Pulled the flies!
I prepped for this by buying a JIS screwdriver set from Amazon that included a 15" or so long JIS head screwdriver. No heating required, it worked really well and the screws came out effortlessly. I also stopped by Harbor Freight and picked up a telescoping magnet to use along side the screwdriver. It worked as planned and the moment a screw became loose, I pulled it with the screwdriver. Flies came out with my fingers and no challenges. I didn't pull the tank to do the job. I just used a strap to lift the tank and attached the strap to the rear luggage rack to hold it out of the way.

I did need to adjust the idle and to a TPS reset once warmed up. It sounds fantastic and I can't wait to take it for a rip once I get a break in the weather to open it up a bit.
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Old 12-20-2012, 05:15 PM   #904
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After reading everybody's reports (on this and other forums) on how easy the hop-ups are on this bike, it really seems Kawasaki meant for it to be done.

SimpleSimon, you gotta report on the results when you get a chance.
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Old 12-20-2012, 06:02 PM   #905
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After reading everybody's reports (on this and other forums) on how easy the hop-ups are on this bike, it really seems Kawasaki meant for it to be done.

SimpleSimon, you gotta report on the results when you get a chance.
Soon after pulling my flies, installing a PCIII and AreaP slipon, I was headed out on a camping trip. Had just gotten on I-95 when two sportbikes rolled in behind me. I kept it in second up the entrance ramp. As soon as the merge lines appeared, the sportbikes cranked it up to pass me. I had already pinned the throttle.

The GSXR1000 pulled alongside about 140 before backing out of it. I moved to the middle lane and let the sportbikes by.

I ain't saying the C14 is faster than a GSXR1000, rather... a C14 will give most literbikes fits in most real world situations.

YMMV.

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Old 12-20-2012, 07:49 PM   #906
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You can achieve this if have the black version of course.

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Old 12-20-2012, 08:02 PM   #907
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:12 PM   #908
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After reading everybody's reports (on this and other forums) on how easy the hop-ups are on this bike, it really seems Kawasaki meant for it to be done.

SimpleSimon, you gotta report on the results when you get a chance.
Will do. I think that if I were smart, I would hunt down a full exhaust and have a wideband O2 sensor added to my PCV. Either way....the bike purrs and seems to like the new slip-on. The stock pipe on that thing must be 50lbs.

Cheers!
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Old 12-21-2012, 05:29 AM   #909
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Had a guy ask me the other day if I though the C14 would keep up with a R6.

I just said, nah, it would walk away from it. He didn't believe me.
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Old 12-21-2012, 08:06 AM   #910
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Wow, only $388 for the CS one...

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Old 12-21-2012, 09:14 AM   #911
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Wow, only $388 for the CS one...

Where at?

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Old 12-21-2012, 10:03 AM   #912
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Old 12-21-2012, 11:29 AM   #913
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Old 12-21-2012, 11:52 AM   #914
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Thank You!
Double thanks. Need to replace the boat anchor on the wife's C14.
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Old 12-21-2012, 05:10 PM   #915
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Double thanks. Need to replace the boat anchor on the wife's C14.
No kidding....the stock can is a boat anchor. The CS One ships with a silencer and sounds fantastic once you start climbing the RPMs. I took it out today and it ran like my 954! Very impressed with this setup.
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