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Old 12-21-2008, 10:31 PM   #76
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Arggggh. Your computer has a limited instruction set. limited.


Your density is infinite. Without bounds.

Your computer is limited. Not infinite.
Which can be organized in an unlimited number of ways. I transcend boundaries. A word means what I mean it to mean. I'm unlimited, you can't limit me.
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Old 12-21-2008, 10:32 PM   #77
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I'll compute you to death with a Sanka can. Swear to god, I've got the plastic scoop right here.
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Old 12-22-2008, 06:42 AM   #78
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You ought to see the mod computers that pars semantic phraseology and inmate post-time increments to predict head pops. Surfer's numbers are surprisingly high for a shiny things thread.

I think the computer/calculator line is interestingly fuzzy.

I think I'm going with calculator for a gun fire control system or the Antikythera.

Calculator: Can be "programmed" to solve a singe, very specific problem. Over and over as variables change.

Computer: Can be "programmed" to solve an array of problems. And reprogrammed to solve a completely different array of problems.

Consciousness: That which can grock the difference.
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Old 12-22-2008, 06:55 AM   #79
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It's true I tend to thing of these kind of devices as calculators because the "software" is not easily changeable. I think of a computer as the type of machine which can be told to calculate entirely different types of problems easily..."reprogrammed."
Computer isn't such a well defined word.

We talk about the computer that runs the fuel injection system in your bike, and it's not reprogrammable at all.
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Old 12-22-2008, 07:34 AM   #80
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You ought to see the mod computers that pars semantic phraseology and inmate post-time increments to predict head pops. Surfer's numbers are surprisingly high for a shiny things thread.
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I want to get the plans and build a Jo Momma Antikythera. Put all the head explosions on it, and all the likely beat downs that cRaSH is gonna have with Inmates on here. Then there will be the cycles of all the ADV events, and a list of ADVer's that will hook up in a given time. Oh, and there'd have to be the disasterous rides, fundraisers for laid-up Inmates and the next four times the servers have to be changed out.
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Old 12-22-2008, 09:25 AM   #81
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Calculator: Can be "programmed" to solve a singe, very specific problem. Over and over as variables change.

Computer: Can be "programmed" to solve an array of problems. And reprogrammed to solve a completely different array of problems.

Consciousness: That which can grock the difference.

I think I'm getting wound around the axle because I view a computer and a calculator as identical computing devices. They just have different I/O methods. Either can be used interchangeably to resolve different problems. It just takes a longer time, the the I/O methods are different.

The only devices I'd view as programmable are FPGAs. They can have their function changed. Program it to have a 32 bit adder. Then reprogram it to have a 64 bit adder. This is changed, programmable, functionality.

If you have a pentium IV or a cheap casio calculator, you can't program it to be a 64 bit adder. They just add the lower 32 bits and spit out the result, add the upper 32 bits (and the carry) and spit out the result. You didn't change the computer to have a 64 bit adder.

Just because the pentium makes it easier to keep track of the carry doesn't mean it is different.



I just hate to see a lovely 400 year old profession (computer) redefined to mean a beige box.
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Old 12-22-2008, 09:30 AM   #82
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I just hate to see a lovely 400 year old profession (computer) redefined to mean a beige box.
Ipso facto. If you want to lead, you have to get out in front of the people.
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Well, you kids seem to have settled down with the computer argument, so I guess it's safe to return to this fascinating subject.

Researchers built a model and new research suggests that it was primarily for demonstration purposes and not a daily timekeeping device.
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Who is going to tell Bonsai Elephant that his thread is 205?


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Old 04-04-2011, 10:27 PM   #86
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We talk about the computer that runs the fuel injection system in your bike, and it's not reprogrammable at all.

That's not true, the firmware can readily be changed.
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I remember the mechanical "target data computers" that were used during WW2 to calculate firing solutions for weapons. It's true I tend to thing of these kind of devices as calculators because the "software" is not easily changeable. I think of a computer as the type of machine which can be told to calculate entirely different types of problems easily..."reprogrammed."


I want to call the Antikythera an astronomical clock. A position calculator for the heavenly bodies. If it can't be easily adapted to calculate the rate grain rises in a bin when fed by a conveyor belt running at varying rates I wouldn't call it a computer.

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Old 01-24-2013, 02:57 PM   #88
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so why not pencil and paper?

Anybody have a line to draw here?
Pencil & Paper = Printer.

The writer's mind is the computer.
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:09 PM   #89
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Sorry for the error.
Klay, are you bored? Editing a post that's almost 2 years old?





Glad you caught yourself out. How many other typos have you found now that your spellcheck program has gone through all your old posts?



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