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Old 02-24-2011, 01:08 AM   #1606
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Consider something from Equinox Coronado. Either a Cold Steel hawk head on a very lightweight and nigh unbreakable composite handle, or a neat little trick, the Eco Hawk.

http://www.equinoxcoronado.com/hawks/index.html
Nice looking kit.

I'm looking for something that has more of a wedge design that I can baton the backside of the handle for splitting duty. I want to avoid using the 6 for splitting and want to get away from my heavy Bowie. Even with a 1/4" spine, the Bowie doesn't seem to have enough of a wedge.

Maybe I should just just bring my old Estwing hatchet along and call it good. It's a little heavier than I'd like and has too much wedge for light/medium duty, but it is bullet proof and takes the baton for splitting without complaint.

I'd like to see someone come out with a small hatchet that has a concave wedge taper going from the edge to 9/16" at the back, 4" to 4 1/2 " long head (front to back), 2 1/2" face, with an 8 1/2" long handle that can take a beating and weighs less than 1 1/4 lbs. Carbon steel forged head (of course), and a carbon fiber/composite type handle.

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Old 02-24-2011, 03:16 PM   #1607
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Nice looking kit.

I'm looking for something that has more of a wedge design that I can baton the backside of the handle for splitting duty. I want to avoid using the 6 for splitting and want to get away from my heavy Bowie. Even with a 1/4" spine, the Bowie doesn't seem to have enough of a wedge.

Maybe I should just just bring my old Estwing hatchet along and call it good. It's a little heavier than I'd like and has too much wedge for light/medium duty, but it is bullet proof and takes the baton for splitting without complaint.

I'd like to see someone come out with a small hatchet that has a concave wedge taper going from the edge to 9/16" at the back, 4" to 4 1/2 " long head (front to back), 2 1/2" face, with an 8 1/2" long handle that can take a beating and weighs less than 1 1/4 lbs. Carbon steel forged head (of course), and a carbon fiber/composite type handle.

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Call mike at the above link. I bet he'd be happy to try and help you with that... and if he can't customize a head the way you want, I probably can, and send it to him to haft.

FWIW, my Vector Hawk is about 28 inches long, with a Cold Steel trail hawk head, and weighs less than 24 ounces (1.5#). It's fantastic.
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Old 02-24-2011, 03:52 PM   #1608
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Call mike at the above link. I bet he'd be happy to try and help you with that... and if he can't customize a head the way you want, I probably can, and send it to him to haft.

FWIW, my Vector Hawk is about 28 inches long, with a Cold Steel trail hawk head, and weighs less than 24 ounces (1.5#). It's fantastic.
Wouldn't a heavier head decrease fatigue?
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Old 02-24-2011, 03:59 PM   #1609
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Wouldn't a heavier head decrease fatigue?
With this thing, you don't even think about getting fatigued in the first place. The high psi of the small head, the featherweight handle, and the "spring" in the handle make it an evil thing to use.

I love it.
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Old 02-24-2011, 04:00 PM   #1610
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With this thing, you don't even think about getting fatigued in the first place. The high psi of the small head, the featherweight handle, and the "spring" in the handle make it an evil thing to use.

I love it.
Sounds dangerous.

I'd love it too.

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Old 02-24-2011, 04:12 PM   #1611
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Nice looking kit.

I'm looking for something that has more of a wedge design that I can baton the backside of the handle for splitting duty. I want to avoid using the 6 for splitting and want to get away from my heavy Bowie. Even with a 1/4" spine, the Bowie doesn't seem to have enough of a wedge.

Maybe I should just just bring my old Estwing hatchet along and call it good. It's a little heavier than I'd like and has too much wedge for light/medium duty, but it is bullet proof and takes the baton for splitting without complaint.

I'd like to see someone come out with a small hatchet that has a concave wedge taper going from the edge to 9/16" at the back, 4" to 4 1/2 " long head (front to back), 2 1/2" face, with an 8 1/2" long handle that can take a beating and weighs less than 1 1/4 lbs. Carbon steel forged head (of course), and a carbon fiber/composite type handle.

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Consider a Cold Steel "Trail Boss" head.

http://www.coldsteel.com/trailboss.html
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Old 02-24-2011, 06:32 PM   #1612
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I've looked at the little pack axes from Gerber, Fiskars and the pricey little
1 1/2#, hand forged, Swedish number by Gransfors Bruks; the "Kubben", but only on-line.

Any experience with any of these small, pack size axes?

The Coghlan's hatchet is junk, as you probably know... Not enough weight in the head, but cheap to manufacture. I'd rather have my Bowie!
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I did succumb to this this morning. It is currently in the grinding stage so I only have to wait a couple week for delivery... (and it should match my SA Champion well)

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Old 02-24-2011, 06:45 PM   #1613
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Consider a Cold Steel "Trail Boss" head.

http://www.coldsteel.com/trailboss.html
or if money is no object....


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Old 02-24-2011, 06:59 PM   #1614
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Sounds dangerous.

I'd love it too.

Ban EG from knife threads NOW!!
It's for his own safety.
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Old 02-24-2011, 07:40 PM   #1615
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Ban EG from knife threads NOW!!
It's for his own safety.
But it's not a knife!
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Old 02-24-2011, 07:47 PM   #1616
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Too heavy.
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Old 02-24-2011, 07:49 PM   #1617
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Menacing music!?

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Old 02-24-2011, 11:43 PM   #1618
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Rogue -- those scales look like they're right off a 1911 Colt .45. I suppose it's merely a coincidence that the product number is M1911.

Regarding hatchets, I bought a Cold Steel Riflemans Hawk. Nice piece, splits kindling well, but doesn't really cut all that well -- it's significantly lighter than a traditional hatchet (like the Trail Boss that Smithy recommended). I discovered that it's surprisingly adept at doing construction demolition. My only complaint is that the edge is soft -- I'm going to call Cold Steel and ask if a batch escaped before heat treatment.
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Old 02-25-2011, 05:51 AM   #1619
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Rogue -- those scales look like they're right off a 1911 Colt .45. I suppose it's merely a coincidence that the product number is M1911.

Regarding hatchets, I bought a Cold Steel Riflemans Hawk. Nice piece, splits kindling well, but doesn't really cut all that well -- it's significantly lighter than a traditional hatchet (like the Trail Boss that Smithy recommended). I discovered that it's surprisingly adept at doing construction demolition. My only complaint is that the edge is soft -- I'm going to call Cold Steel and ask if a batch escaped before heat treatment.
I had the same thing happen with a Gransfors carpenters axe. Just chopping on some oak cause the edge to fold. Sent it back and they replaced it with no problem. The new one works fine, stuff happens
I guess.
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Old 02-25-2011, 08:42 AM   #1620
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I have always loved a Tomahawk for survival and defense. I learned how to use one to a deadly high degree in Special Forces in Bad Tolz where we (a few of us) got them and played witrh them till it dawned on me they were a great weapon. I began doing a little research and found out how deadly they can be. Somewhere along the way mine got lost or stolen but I want another one. Of course ours were modded small hatchet blades with a long hickory shaft I designed. We took the heads to the motorpool got on the industrial grinder and slowly grond a hatchet head inot a Tomahawk head. I thanked my Mom for making me work for her in her foundry for a few years before going into the Army and leaning a lot about metal finishing. They came out great and for a while, I even toyed with manufacturing them until I foudn out what it cost in the 80s to do that!

I wish I had a pic but I can draw one and show you guys what it looked like if you are at all interested.
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