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Old 02-24-2011, 06:06 AM   #1516
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The Predator drones too

Pred B aka MQ-9 Reaper.

Perhaps flown by the Boys from Syracuse, the 174th ANG, right up the road (split-remote ops, local guys takeoff and land, hand ops over to stateside pilots for the mission part of the sortie).

Predator-A is piston-engined, and all the tail feathers point down. Reaper has a turboprop used in civilian manned aircraft.

The MQ-1C Gray Eagle (Army) looks a little more like a reaper in the engine but the fins also all point down, it's a slightly upgraded predator with a diesel engine.


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Old 02-24-2011, 02:19 PM   #1517
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Boeing won the contract for the new tankers.
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Old 02-24-2011, 02:22 PM   #1518
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Boeing won the contract for the new tankers.
What will they be derived from?

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Old 02-24-2011, 02:50 PM   #1519
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What will they be derived from?

Dunno yet.

Imma contract worker for EADS so i was half hoping they'd win so I might possibly get hired on permanently, but I'm glad most of that money is going to stay in the country.
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Old 02-24-2011, 03:18 PM   #1520
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Dunno yet.

Imma contract worker for EADS so i was half hoping they'd win so I might possibly get hired on permanently, but I'm glad most of that money is going to stay in the country.
EADS?

What do you do for a living?


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Old 02-24-2011, 03:47 PM   #1521
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EADS?

What do you do for a living?


European Aeronautics Defense and Space.

They're the mother coporation for Eurocopter, Airbus and a few other companies.

I'm just a low level contract worker for Eurocopter.

If EADS had won the contract a lot of that $35 billion would be going to France and Germany.
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Old 02-24-2011, 04:00 PM   #1522
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Tanker is a version of the Boeing 767 airliner. The EADS was a version of their A330 airliner. It was a nasty battle that was going on for years. The A330 had more lift and range, and (supposedly) would have been built (assembled) in the US (Alabama). EADS has 10 days to appeal.
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Old 02-24-2011, 04:03 PM   #1523
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Tanker is a version of the Boeing 767 airliner. The EADS was a version of their A330 airliner. It was a nasty battle that was going on for years. The A330 had more lift and range, and (supposedly) would have been built (assembled) in the US (Alabama). EADS has 10 days to appeal.
It was supposed to have been built in Alabama, but I'm betting a large chunk of all the parts would've been manufactured over seas.

A guy I work with was really hoping we'd win it so he could take a senior position over there.
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Old 02-24-2011, 04:09 PM   #1524
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It was supposed to have been built in Alabama, but I'm betting a large chunk of all the parts would've been manufactured over seas.

A guy I work with was really hoping we'd win it so he could take a senior position over there.
Frankly, I think the European reliance on computers to fly airplanes is just a plain bad idea.
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Old 02-24-2011, 04:11 PM   #1525
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They all use computers to fly.
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Old 02-24-2011, 04:12 PM   #1526
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They all use computers to fly.
The Airbus is a disaster waiting to happen. Oh wait, .......
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Old 02-24-2011, 04:51 PM   #1527
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F16 was the first totally fly by wire (i.e computer controlling a dynamically unstable aircraft) and entered service around 1980 - all US designed and built. Airbus A320, ("computer" aircraft, AKA "sparky") entered service around 1987, no unstable, but with envelope protections under speed/over speed, bank, pitch, etc.) No difference in safety between the Boeing 737 series ,a "conventional" aircraft, vs Airbus. I gather it might be a little more fun to fly a 737, but you can't have that sort of fun with passengers on-board.
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Old 02-24-2011, 04:52 PM   #1528
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Old News?

Don't know if it was mentioned but I watched part of this on Air France 447 the other night. Not very inspiring.
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Old 02-24-2011, 04:59 PM   #1529
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I'm not specifically endorsing it but Boeing sub contracts large portions of production for their "domestic built" airliners in other countries. Proportionally much more so than EADS. Boeing was caught in this tanker deal doing criminal acts, but apparently that did not disqualify them and only delayed their receiving the contract, even though EADS had once won the contract themselves. I wonder how much all the back and forth actually cost. So now French wine and other tasty products will probably rise in prise, but the threatened trade tariff on Budweiser to Europe will be dropped.
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I'm not specifically endorsing it but Boeing sub contracts large portions of production for their "domestic built" airliners in other countries. Proportionally much more so than EADS. Boeing was caught in this tanker deal doing criminal acts, but apparently that did not disqualify them and only delayed their receiving the contract, even though EADS had once won the contract themselves. I wonder how much all the back and forth actually cost. So now French wine and other tasty products will probably rise in prise, but the threatened trade tariff on Budweiser to Europe will be dropped.

Huh.

All I know is EADS stocks are gonna be sore tomorrow.
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