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Old 12-19-2011, 06:24 PM   #2386
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Me getting checked out



in one of these



He kept telling me to get lower on approach over the lake to the strip. After this he said 'now you're getting the hang of it'.



Without doubt the most fun flying I've ever done. Sadly that was the last flying I did, in 2005, due to divorce, change of job etc. I'm hoping to be able to afford a share in a little taildragger in a couple of years time. Damn I miss flying.
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Old 12-19-2011, 06:41 PM   #2387
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Old 12-20-2011, 05:54 AM   #2388
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It sucks when life gets in the way...
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Old 12-20-2011, 06:11 AM   #2389
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Crap. Missed the last part. Sorry. Better than me by far. It's been a long long time since I've been in the cockpit. 97 or 98 I think......
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Old 12-20-2011, 07:39 AM   #2390
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Old 12-20-2011, 11:44 AM   #2391
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Old 12-20-2011, 07:54 PM   #2392
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I'm looking forward to "Red Tails" when it comes out next year. The trailers I've seen thus far lead me to believe that it will rely too much on CG, which is a real shame. Hope I'm wrong.

Here's a short film with some really well done effects:

The German from Nick Ryan on Vimeo.

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Old 12-20-2011, 10:10 PM   #2393
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He kept telling me to get lower on approach over the lake to the strip.

After this he said 'now you're getting the hang of it'.





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Old 12-21-2011, 09:26 AM   #2394
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Anybody got video of a low level, full moon, winter night flight? I checked vimeo and youtube and found nothing.
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Old 12-21-2011, 09:55 AM   #2395
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Man i cant wait for Red Tails to come out! Great actors, excellent historical story!! Bad ass aircraft!! I just REALLY hope they dont over do it.. ya know how hollywood can ruin an excellent story with stupid love interests and bullshit plot lines, or worse modern slang in the dialog
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Old 12-21-2011, 10:35 AM   #2396
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Isn't Spielberg part of it, like a producer? Then you can count on your fears of a good story tainted with his imprint of making it an overblown action film. While not always the precursor to what a film actually turns out, the trailers for this seem to indicate the film will be just that. Which is a pity, because it is a great (and important) story - and could/would have been better if they concentrate on that, like 3/4 is the story, and 1/4 with the aircraft hardware. Likely it'll be 30% story, 70% action.
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Old 12-21-2011, 03:09 PM   #2397
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Old 12-21-2011, 07:28 PM   #2398
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I wanna see you confront some of the old timers who flew in this and tell them they turned and ran like they said they did in the trailer.
Turned and ran? I didn’t see anything like that in the trailer that was posted here. Right at the start of the trailer you see fighters going off chasing a group of German fighters instead of sticking where they were needed, with the bombers. Probably just as the Germans intended, to lure them away from the bombers.
But nowhere did I see anything that even implied that anyone ‘turned & ran’.
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Old 12-21-2011, 08:04 PM   #2399
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I saw the trailer in the the theater and didn't think there was any implied cutting and running. Several years ago I was able to meet with and talk with General Benjamin Davis. What an honor and incredible historical experience. As I recall the Tuskegee Airmen had the best escort record, although I forget whether or not they ever lost an escorted bomber. Bomber groups used to specifically request them as escorts. When they found out they were black they still requested them. I would think what the Tuskegee Airmen faced wasn't just political but also definitely personal. I don't think a Speilberg production, if it is his or if he is involved, will do the story justice.
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Old 12-21-2011, 09:19 PM   #2400
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[QUOTE=seriousracer;17568064]21 seconds "where the hell are our fighters going."
36 seconds "I need pilots who will put the bomber ahead of themselves."

If you watched carefully, it was another Fighter Group that broke formation and chased the German fighters leaving the formation uncovered. This was a common occurrence.

For the record, the 332nd Fighter Group was the only fighter group in the US Army Air Force that made all it's rendezvous' and completed all its mission as assigned. Only 25 escorted bombers were lost to enemy fighter action out of almost 1600 missions. The first is a tribute to their courage and skill at flying and navigating in weather that grounded other groups. The second is due to the tenacity and courage of the pilots. 455 pilots deployed to combat and 155 were lost, ~66 being shot down. They paid the price for admission. Did you?

Were the aggressive? You bet. Did General Davis have to rein them in? On occasion. Which is the way you want fighter pilots to be.

I suggest you study the Air War in Europe before you challenge any of these men. You will be lucky to keep all your teeth in your head if you do.

BTW, General Davis died in 2002.

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