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Old 03-20-2012, 07:07 PM   #2776
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You missed another clue.

See which seat the pilot climbed into?

Something was different about that Piper that didn't quite jive with a J-3.

It's a J-5 I believe. Google shows same swing door.
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Old 03-20-2012, 07:23 PM   #2777
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I was also thinking a J-5 or possibly, a PA-12.

My only taildragger time was in a PA-12. I wanted to steal it...

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Old 03-20-2012, 07:32 PM   #2778
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PA 12's a little wider. Friend of mine at Lake Dallas had one that was in great condition. Never had a chance to fly or ride in it but when they pulled it out of the hangar for the monthly 20 min lap of the lake I drooled over it.
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Old 03-21-2012, 04:58 AM   #2779
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Old 03-21-2012, 10:17 AM   #2780
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I believe your J-5 Cruiser thought, may be right.
Must have switched to a completed bird, though different, to finish out the film.
Cool...
How bout some J-5 porn?




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Old 03-21-2012, 10:34 AM   #2781
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Maybe they were making military scout j-3s?

I know they were different, but I don't have specifics on how.
Yes, they were the military L-4's.
They had the greenhouse glass in the back, but still had the 50/50 doors.
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Old 03-21-2012, 02:46 PM   #2782
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Maybe they were making military scout j-3s?

I know they were different, but I don't have specifics on how.
A friend of mine just finished restoring a U.S. Navy J-3. It has a different type designation and I will try to get info on it. It was one of a few dozen built in the final stages of the war and might still have been in the box when passed on through war surplus sales. Is this possibly what you are talking about?
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Old 03-21-2012, 06:27 PM   #2783
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A friend of mine just finished restoring a U.S. Navy J-3. It has a different type designation and I will try to get info on it. It was one of a few dozen built in the final stages of the war and might still have been in the box when passed on through war surplus sales. Is this possibly what you are talking about?
From Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_J...s_and_variants
LNP
Three TG-8 training glider variant for the United States Navy.[28]
NE-1
United States Navy designation for the J3C-65 with dual controls, 230 built.[29]
NE-2
Same as NE-1 with minor equipment changes, 20 built.[29]
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Old 03-21-2012, 07:46 PM   #2784
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Talking Cubs and tailwheels I miss handpropping airplanes.

Few years ago I was a 30 something year old teenager pumping gas at the local airport, washing planes, pumping gas, renting planes to folks for rental time. Hole in the wall FBO with a couple of 150s, a Cherokee and a Cub. Get off real job Sat morning at the big airport and head to my job at the small one. Damn I loved it. Work the place all day, Would slow down in the late afternoons and I would make a couple of touch and go's in the Cub.

Day I started I met Robert. He was the A&P for the outfit. True self-taught artist when it came to overhauling and rebuilding planes. This was an ooolldddd FBO. Robert lived in a room there with a microwave and there was a shower in the bathroom. I watched him over a couple years build time, get twin time. I finally quit the FBO but still kept my plane there and we still flew and there was a group of us that would fly to breakfast on Sunday mornings then tear up north Texas on the way back to the airport. Robert's job before the FBO was plumbing. Perseverance.....after doing low pay, getting his A&P on the job and his A&I and building time he has been a first officer for United Express for about 10 years. Too old to be captain but he doesnt care. He loves his job and now lives in Oklahoma on his own private strip.

First afternoon I showed up Robert showed me around the place, how to run the cash register, gas planes etc. Then he tells me, "come on, I'll show you how to prop the Cub." "excuse me?" "No big deal, do what I tell you and show you and it's totally safe." "crap".

He shows me how to do it, I do it a couple times then I head out with him on my first Cub ride. He was right. Easy Peasy. "Brakes set" "Switch off" "Throttle closed"........Light shove on the prop to check the brakes and pull it trhough 3 times. "Brakes" "Switch on" "Throttle cracked" Another light push on the prop and pull it. Would fire right up. Bitch was when it was middle of July or August and we would rent it one trip after another. It was a bitch to start and would wear my ass out.

Most of the locals in their taildraggers would let me prop them or ask if I could and then some would do it themselves until they knew me better. Taildraggers were easiest. Trikes I would prop from behind. One hand pulling prop and one hand steadying myself on the cowling. Biggest thing I propped was a 210.....once...wore myself out. I told him there was no way I could do it and he was like..."nooo, its no big deal."

That light push on the prop did save my ass one day...."switch off" "check" I went to pull it through and the Champ started, remember, always treat a propellor as if it will start. I always planned for them to start even on the pull throughs.....the looks on both of our faces must have been priceless. You never saw me hanging on a dead prop.

Met alot of good people and had some good times back then. That airport was always packed and the airport owner let it go to crap and ran everyone off due to the surface conditions.
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Old 03-21-2012, 09:08 PM   #2785
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I, once, when I had to, hand-propped a Helio Courier that was sitting on ice. With someone on the brakes it worked. I did that only once, because I had too.
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Old 03-22-2012, 03:33 AM   #2786
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First plane made using the Additive Manufacturing process.




And this South African company wants to do the same thing using powdered titanium.
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Back in my early days as a mechanic, I worked for a float plane operator. I was sent down to Vancouver harbour to rescue a Cessna 185 on floats - the starter solenoid wouldn't dis-engage. I decided to hand bomb it to get her home - in front of hundreds of Expo '86 patrons. Pilot was in his chair and me out on the right float bobbing around in the harbour swells. I had never done it before, but with my hand on the wing strut and the other on the prop, I gave it all I got. She caught and I turned to see all those hundreds of people giving me a thunderous applause. I climbed in and we took off to go to our main base.
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Met alot of good people and had some good times back then. That airport was always packed and the airport owner let it go to crap and ran everyone off due to the surface conditions.

Airpark?
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Talking Cubs and tailwheels I miss handpropping airplanes.

Few years ago I was a 30 something year old teenager pumping gas at the local airport, washing planes, pumping gas, renting planes to folks for rental time. Hole in the wall FBO with a couple of 150s, a Cherokee and a Cub. Get off real job Sat morning at the big airport and head to my job at the small one. Damn I loved it. Work the place all day, Would slow down in the late afternoons and I would make a couple of touch and go's in the Cub.

Day I started I met Robert. He was the A&P for the outfit. True self-taught artist when it came to overhauling and rebuilding planes. This was an ooolldddd FBO. Robert lived in a room there with a microwave and there was a shower in the bathroom. I watched him over a couple years build time, get twin time. I finally quit the FBO but still kept my plane there and we still flew and there was a group of us that would fly to breakfast on Sunday mornings then tear up north Texas on the way back to the airport. Robert's job before the FBO was plumbing. Perseverance.....after doing low pay, getting his A&P on the job and his A&I and building time he has been a first officer for United Express for about 10 years. Too old to be captain but he doesnt care. He loves his job and now lives in Oklahoma on his own private strip.

First afternoon I showed up Robert showed me around the place, how to run the cash register, gas planes etc. Then he tells me, "come on, I'll show you how to prop the Cub." "excuse me?" "No big deal, do what I tell you and show you and it's totally safe." "crap".

He shows me how to do it, I do it a couple times then I head out with him on my first Cub ride. He was right. Easy Peasy. "Brakes set" "Switch off" "Throttle closed"........Light shove on the prop to check the brakes and pull it trhough 3 times. "Brakes" "Switch on" "Throttle cracked" Another light push on the prop and pull it. Would fire right up. Bitch was when it was middle of July or August and we would rent it one trip after another. It was a bitch to start and would wear my ass out.

Most of the locals in their taildraggers would let me prop them or ask if I could and then some would do it themselves until they knew me better. Taildraggers were easiest. Trikes I would prop from behind. One hand pulling prop and one hand steadying myself on the cowling. Biggest thing I propped was a 210.....once...wore myself out. I told him there was no way I could do it and he was like..."nooo, its no big deal."

That light push on the prop did save my ass one day...."switch off" "check" I went to pull it through and the Champ started, remember, always treat a propellor as if it will start. I always planned for them to start even on the pull throughs.....the looks on both of our faces must have been priceless. You never saw me hanging on a dead prop.

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Airpark?
Lake Dallas...30F.

Take off to the south and miss the Lake Dallas Marina boat docks......final approach over water to the last few yards depending on lake level.
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