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Old 05-13-2012, 01:24 PM   #2971
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It was fun to be holding short at STL and watch the then in production F15's make a vertical climb departure. I think they could even accelerate in the vertical climb.
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Old 05-13-2012, 06:26 PM   #2972
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Good catch, Flying-D...

I was thinking of the classic single seat, single engine, land based fighter...

Chas... seems like I remember seeing a video, circa mid to late '70's where an F-15 and an F-4 took off together.

The F-15 had a rearward facing camera and after rotation, went vertical.

The F-4 remained in the camera frame while still rolling on the runway...

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Old 05-13-2012, 07:16 PM   #2973
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The F-18 was a McDonnell Douglas design/product (but mostly a Northrop design) before they were assimilated into the Boeing collective.
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Old 05-13-2012, 07:44 PM   #2974
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Actually, I work these guys on Boeing production test flights pretty regularly...

That's a take-off shot?
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Old 05-13-2012, 09:23 PM   #2975
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That's a take-off shot?
I just got that image after googling it, but nope, I don't imagine that it is. Why? I was just saying that it was a Boeing single-seat fighter. I totally understand that it was not originally a Boeing product, but that is the nature of many aircraft. Type certificates get sold, manufacturers get bought-out or collapse...We could each probably name many examples of this.
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Old 05-14-2012, 05:14 PM   #2976
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I just got that image after googling it, but nope, I don't imagine that it is. Why?...
Just curious. I would have thought the flaps would have been lowered more for landing. Also figured speed brakes would be visible on landing although I'm not sure of the configuration on the Super H. I also seem to recall the F-18 lands with a slightly more level attitude, but again not sure on the Super H and maybe I'm not remembering it correctly...
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Old 05-14-2012, 05:23 PM   #2977
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...I also seem to recall the F-18 lands with a slightly more level attitude...
it does.....when fast
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Old 05-15-2012, 08:06 AM   #2978
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Just curious. I would have thought the flaps would have been lowered more for landing. Also figured speed brakes would be visible on landing although I'm not sure of the configuration on the Super H. I also seem to recall the F-18 lands with a slightly more level attitude, but again not sure on the Super H and maybe I'm not remembering it correctly...
IDK? Flaps look like they're all the way down to me, leading edge slats out, and looks most of the landings I've seen...to a runway.
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Old 05-15-2012, 10:03 AM   #2979
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Given the past several posts, I'll return to my earlier question, and try to state it accurately...

When did Boeing last design and build a single seat, single engine, land based fighter?

P-26?

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Old 05-15-2012, 11:40 AM   #2980
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Maybe Boeing was satisfied with the B47, B52, KC135, Chinook, ET AL, programs? Not exactly small scale stuff and I am sure they paid well enough, maybe eking out a few dollars more than, say Vought's A7/A8, the Republic 105....
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Old 05-15-2012, 03:34 PM   #2981
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What's the cost of ownership for a Piper J-3 Cub?
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Old 05-15-2012, 04:02 PM   #2982
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What's the cost of ownership for a Piper J-3 Cub?
I rent a Cessna 152 for $89/hr wet.
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Old 05-15-2012, 04:52 PM   #2983
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What's the cost of ownership for a Piper J-3 Cub?
Pretty low once you've bought it - it's a bone simple plane. The problem is their price is out of sync with what it is. Between the Boomers having nostalgia and the growing population of Sport Pilots (old folks loosing their medicals), the price is through the roof.
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Old 05-15-2012, 04:58 PM   #2984
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That I have noticed.
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Old 05-15-2012, 05:05 PM   #2985
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30-40 grand. On the other hand 152s can be had for 15 grand, but you need a pilot's license .
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