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Old 06-15-2012, 06:47 AM   #3121
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an Otter with wood paneling - ours are all utility and work hard....

Twin Otter DHC-6 the most fun you can have with your Ray Bans on...
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Old 06-15-2012, 06:49 AM   #3122
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an Otter with wood paneling - ours are all utility and work hard....

TWIN Otter the most fun you can habe with your Ray Bans on...
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Old 06-15-2012, 08:05 AM   #3123
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The MS 737 sim model sounds terribly mucked up. Idle thrust on a approach with a 737 don't work out. Are you flying on a ILS or with the VASI (visual angle slope indicator). Most of the reccomended appraches for this airplane are designed for these approach angles, roughly 3 degrees, + or minus a few percentages.

EPR = engine pressure ratio, inlet air versus thrust (main core - by-pass). Think of it as your throttle, via the thrust levers. For a desired approach speed setting this varies somewhat for landing weight and temperature/ air density.

The following will be very useful, although it is 2.7 MB and 320 pages. We may not hear from you for a long time though


http://www.737ng.co.uk/B737%20Classi...g%20Manual.pdf
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Old 06-15-2012, 08:29 AM   #3124
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Old 06-15-2012, 09:01 AM   #3125
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Indeed. My first assignment as an Air Force controller was at the Academy where they used a pair for their jump school as well as their demonstration team, The Wings of Blue. I even remember the call signs...Congo 64 and Congo 65. They flew multiple sorties almost daily and were rock-solid reliable aircraft, and I believe that they still fly them. I'll take a turbine single for my lottery airplane though. Lower operating cost and 1/2 the chance of engine failure.

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Old 06-15-2012, 09:06 AM   #3126
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OK Twin Otter guru's...what are those vertical strakes on the horizontal stabilizer for? I've seen lots of Twin Otters but not seen that set-up.
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Old 06-15-2012, 09:48 AM   #3127
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OK Twin Otter guru's...what are those vertical strakes on the horizontal stabilizer for? I've seen lots of Twin Otters but not seen that set-up.
They seem to be used whenever there's 'stuff' that's going to be hanging out in the airflow, like skies or floats, or in this case, the open door and maybe people hanging onto the gear.

Can't imagine skies or floats mucks up the airflow for the rudder, so it must have some lateral instability under some conditions.
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Old 06-15-2012, 10:24 AM   #3128
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The MS 737 sim model sounds terribly mucked up. Idle thrust on a approach with a 737 don't work out. Are you flying on a ILS or with the VASI (visual angle slope indicator). Most of the reccomended appraches for this airplane are designed for these approach angles, roughly 3 degrees, + or minus a few percentages.

EPR = engine pressure ratio, inlet air versus thrust (main core - by-pass). Think of it as your throttle, via the thrust levers. For a desired approach speed setting this varies somewhat for landing weight and temperature/ air density.

The following will be very useful, although it is 2.7 MB and 320 pages. We may not hear from you for a long time though


http://www.737ng.co.uk/B737%20Classi...g%20Manual.pdf

Using the VASI.
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Old 06-15-2012, 11:46 AM   #3129
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OK Twin Otter guru's...what are those vertical strakes on the horizontal stabilizer for? I've seen lots of Twin Otters but not seen that set-up.
Lots of float planes have extra vertical surfaces at the rear. Its supposed to help with yaw, directional control at slower speeds.
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Old 06-15-2012, 11:49 AM   #3130
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The Twin Otter is back in production by Viking Air in BC who bought the rights from Bombardier / DeHavilland. They also have the rights to the other DeHavilland designs so who knows, maybe they will start making new Beavers. They have a four year backlog for new Twin Otters already.
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Old 06-15-2012, 11:56 AM   #3131
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The Twin Otter is back in production by Viking Air in BC who bought the rights from Bombardier / DeHavilland. They also have the rights to the other DeHavilland designs so who knows, maybe they will start making new Beavers. They have a four year backlog for new Twin Otters already.
Really?

Hmmm

Suddenly a C-27J or an Avanti seem like so much overkill.....
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Old 06-15-2012, 11:59 AM   #3132
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Seen the strakes on float Twin Otters (and float Caravans) but not on wheeled Otters or Caravans, and most jump planes don't seem to have them. I guess you don't have to take them off for wheel operation.
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Old 06-15-2012, 12:00 PM   #3133
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They seem to be used whenever there's 'stuff' that's going to be hanging out in the airflow, like skies or floats, or in this case, the open door and maybe people hanging onto the gear.

Can't imagine skies or floats mucks up the airflow for the rudder, so it must have some lateral instability under some conditions.
We used to pull this 20 way chunk off the side of a Twin Otter. 12 people outside the door and 8 inside. Lot of rear CG , drag on the left side of the plane and the weight of 21 skydivers exiting at once does not even phase the Otter.

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Old 06-15-2012, 12:04 PM   #3134
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Alright then, the possible "ultimate" single pilot lottery utility plane for ADV'ers could be the Shorts SD7 Skyvan......ugly as all get out, KLR ugly, but indeed very useful. Operate out of rough strips and roll your bike cargo in/out with the rear ramp. Big enough for sleeping and small shop in there too. The CASA 212 would work too, but its not single pilot. The twin Otter has no roll on/off ramp. I'd post a picture of the Skyvan (AKA Sky Pig) but I am so lame in posting pictures.
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Old 06-15-2012, 12:13 PM   #3135
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Alright then, the possible "ultimate" single pilot lottery utility plane for ADV'ers could be the Shorts SD7 Skyvan......ugly as all get out, KLR ugly, but indeed very useful. Operate out of rough strips and roll your bike cargo in/out with the rear ramp. Big enough for sleeping and small shop in there too. The CASA 212 would work too, but its not single pilot. The twin Otter has no roll on/off ramp. I'd post a picture of the Skyvan (AKA Sky Pig) but I am so lame in posting pictures.
Here, I will help you out.

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South Africa, Swaziland, Botswana ride report
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