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fyrfytr · 08-12-2012, 01:16 PM

My co-worker told me on Thursday that the airplane would be flying into Essex County, NJ airport for the weekend. I took my father for a ride to the airport, didn't have money enough to send him up in the air, though. When we got there, the airplane was out flying people around. A few minutes later, we caught sight of her making her final approach. What a sight, truly breathtaking. Then one of the old timers who also paused to watch the landing, added, "You think that's something, just imagine a thousand of them." I took it that he had. Cheers to the EAA for keeping her in the air.

Daniii · 08-12-2012, 02:39 PM

The airport in LaPaz is at 13,000 ft. I have been there a couple of times in a C-130 in '68. We were required to carry a couple of spare tires and lifting bags if we landed there, as touchdown speed, max gear down speed and stall speed are all about the same at that altitude.

We saw C-47's circling the city, climbing to get up to the airstrip, which is on a high plateau above the city.

BeeDub · 08-12-2012, 03:16 PM

Let's talk attainable goals...any fans of Velocity? Sorry if this is 205, but I'm at least 100 pages from catching up after not reading this thread for a couple years.

koncha · 08-12-2012, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by fyrfytr

My co-worker told me on Thursday that the airplane would be flying into Essex County, NJ airport for the weekend. I took my father for a ride to the airport, didn't have money enough to send him up in the air, though. When we got there, the airplane was out flying people around. A few minutes later, we caught sight of her making her final approach. What a sight, truly breathtaking. Then one of the old timers who also paused to watch the landing, added, "You think that's something, just imagine a thousand of them." I took it that he had. Cheers to the EAA for keeping her in the air.

My dad and I flew in Aluminum Overcast in 2003. It was amazing and well worth the $350 it cost at the time.

Tom Herold · 08-12-2012, 06:55 PM

Had these fine lady's visiting Austin recently

chazbird · 08-12-2012, 07:01 PM

Thanks for that information. I see that the majority of the meat hauling Bolivian B17's were "destroyed". They weren't shot down so the Andes must have done them in, or over weight takeoffs, or some other misadventure. Bombs to food - talk about "repurposing". The photo's I saw of this adventure were very visceral and raw, just wild and out there.

Daniii · 08-12-2012, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by chazbird

Thanks for that information. I see that the majority of the meat hauling Bolivian B17's were "destroyed". They weren't shot down so the Andes must have done them in, or over weight takeoffs, or some other misadventure. Bombs to food - talk about "repurposing". The photo's I saw of this adventure were very visceral and raw, just wild and out there.

If you were overloaded and trying to land at La Paz, I can imagine a whole host of things that would result in "destroyed". If you couldn't make it up the altitude of the airfield, I suspect there were no 'alternates'.

chazbird · 08-12-2012, 07:25 PM

The meat was loaded on the eastern side of the Andes down in the flat lands and low elevation of the Amazon region. "All they had to do" was to get across the Andes - no easy feat - and then maybe they thought it was free sailing down to La Paz. They also used C46's and I think they used B25's, too. Taking off at 13,000 feet is one time I might prefer a turbo or supercharged aircraft like a B17 than a fighting for breath straight turbine or turbo-prop. Can you imagine the off-loading you'd have to do to takeoff, legally, from La Paz?

Daniii · 08-12-2012, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by chazbird

The meat was loaded on the eastern side of the Andes down in the flat lands and low elevation of the Amazon region. "All they had to do" was to get across the Andes - no easy feat - and then maybe they thought it was free sailing down to La Paz. They also used C46's and I think they used B25's, too. Taking off at 13,000 feet is one time I might prefer a turbo or supercharged aircraft like a B17 than a fighting for breath straight turbine or turbo-prop. Can you imagine the off-loading you'd have to do to takeoff, legally, from La Paz?

Worse, when on the tarmack at La Paz, the pilot casually asked me to hop up to the flight deck to get his notebook. I said "sure". hopped up there, and promptly passed out. Woke up to the rest of the crew laughing. Seem it was a standard rite for a La Paz noob (like me).

Saw a Cessna 172 with a 4 bladed prop on the ramp.

Lornce · 08-12-2012, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mfp4073

Whats that bike in the background

Looks like an '88 or '89 BMW R100GS.

chazbird · 08-12-2012, 08:02 PM

Those La Paz 172's use their version of ethanol; 75% Avgas, 25% distillate coca. Works wonders.

kfsinc · 08-12-2012, 08:19 PM

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Those La Paz 172's use their version of ethanol; 75% Avgas, 25% distillate coca. Works wonders.

That's what they put in the pilot -- what do they put in the plane?

kfsinc · 08-12-2012, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BeeDub

Let's talk attainable goals...any fans of Velocity? Sorry if this is 205, but I'm at least 100 pages from catching up after not reading this thread for a couple years.

This one's been hanging around 3CK this summer. Love the lines of this plane.

kfsinc · 08-12-2012, 08:46 PM

While I'm posting -- here's a few more - taken last summer at Dacy Airport, Harvard, IL

Her dad owns the place... She's a captain for American.

Couple of friend's own this one, shown here on final.

ChopHawk · 08-12-2012, 09:43 PM

I just flew on Aluminum Overcast when it was up here in Oxford Ct this past wednesday.. it was pretty neat. 435.00 smackers, but to fly iin a B-17 with all their history was worth it to me. also cool to listen to some of the stories the old timers had of flying these things in the war. wish i could figure out how to post a video, got a couple of good ones while flying. engines sound great on take off.

08-12-2012, 01:16 PM	#3571
fyrfytr B.U.F.F. Joined: Sep 2007 Location: Jersey, the New one. Oddometer: 2,347	My co-worker told me on Thursday that the airplane would be flying into Essex County, NJ airport for the weekend. I took my father for a ride to the airport, didn't have money enough to send him up in the air, though. When we got there, the airplane was out flying people around. A few minutes later, we caught sight of her making her final approach. What a sight, truly breathtaking. Then one of the old timers who also paused to watch the landing, added, "You think that's something, just imagine a thousand of them." I took it that he had. Cheers to the EAA for keeping her in the air. __________________ But the speed was power, and the speed was joy, and the speed was pure beauty.

08-12-2012, 08:46 PM	#3584
kfsinc Chaingolian Observer Joined: Aug 2003 Location: Crystal Lake, IL Oddometer: 2,289	While I'm posting -- here's a few more - taken last summer at Dacy Airport, Harvard, IL Her dad owns the place... She's a captain for American. Couple of friend's own this one, shown here on final. __________________ Karl R1100GS F650GS -- sold -- what's next? “If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough.”, Mario Andretti Indulge. Repent. Repeat.

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08-12-2012, 02:39 PM	#3572
Daniii geezer Joined: Sep 2005 Location: Plano Tx Oddometer: 19,197	The airport in LaPaz is at 13,000 ft. I have been there a couple of times in a C-130 in '68. We were required to carry a couple of spare tires and lifting bags if we landed there, as touchdown speed, max gear down speed and stall speed are all about the same at that altitude. We saw C-47's circling the city, climbing to get up to the airstrip, which is on a high plateau above the city.

08-12-2012, 03:16 PM	#3573
BeeDub Havagoowan Joined: Aug 2007 Oddometer: 2,019	Let's talk attainable goals...any fans of Velocity? Sorry if this is 205, but I'm at least 100 pages from catching up after not reading this thread for a couple years.

08-12-2012, 06:55 PM	#3575
Tom Herold Ugh... Joined: Nov 2008 Location: The toilet bowl called Austin, Texas Oddometer: 100	Had these fine lady's visiting Austin recently

08-12-2012, 07:01 PM	#3576
chazbird Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2009 Oddometer: 2,124	Thanks for that information. I see that the majority of the meat hauling Bolivian B17's were "destroyed". They weren't shot down so the Andes must have done them in, or over weight takeoffs, or some other misadventure. Bombs to food - talk about "repurposing". The photo's I saw of this adventure were very visceral and raw, just wild and out there.

08-12-2012, 07:25 PM	#3578
chazbird Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2009 Oddometer: 2,124	The meat was loaded on the eastern side of the Andes down in the flat lands and low elevation of the Amazon region. "All they had to do" was to get across the Andes - no easy feat - and then maybe they thought it was free sailing down to La Paz. They also used C46's and I think they used B25's, too. Taking off at 13,000 feet is one time I might prefer a turbo or supercharged aircraft like a B17 than a fighting for breath straight turbine or turbo-prop. Can you imagine the off-loading you'd have to do to takeoff, legally, from La Paz?

08-12-2012, 08:02 PM	#3581
chazbird Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2009 Oddometer: 2,124	Those La Paz 172's use their version of ethanol; 75% Avgas, 25% distillate coca. Works wonders.

08-12-2012, 09:43 PM	#3585
ChopHawk Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2009 Location: Ct Oddometer: 110	I just flew on Aluminum Overcast when it was up here in Oxford Ct this past wednesday.. it was pretty neat. 435.00 smackers, but to fly iin a B-17 with all their history was worth it to me. also cool to listen to some of the stories the old timers had of flying these things in the war. wish i could figure out how to post a video, got a couple of good ones while flying. engines sound great on take off.