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Old 12-25-2012, 10:48 AM   #4021
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An old friend told me a story of something along the same lines from the days of owning a crop dusting operation. They had a contract to spray a field in the agricultural areas east of Vancouver - the Fraser Valley to be exact. It would seem that they got the address wrong and sprayed herbicide on the organic blue berry patch one field over from where they should have been. It was all brown within a week. I don't know how he dodged it, but there was a twinkle in his eye telling the story.
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Old 12-25-2012, 02:23 PM   #4022
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An old friend told me a story of something along the same lines from the days of owning a crop dusting operation. They had a contract to spray a field in the agricultural areas east of Vancouver - the Fraser Valley to be exact. It would seem that they got the address wrong and sprayed herbicide on the organic blue berry patch one field over from where they should have been. It was all brown within a week. I don't know how he dodged it, but there was a twinkle in his eye telling the story.
Happens, in retrospect more money and less headache operating in the Midwest or in Saskatchewan where a hopper load will only do one pass. Mind you on a good season at $5.00 an acre you can do OK. specially when the grasshoppers hit on a dry year. As for the Fraser Valley been there often but never operated in the area. Mostly fruit trees and everytime i stopped when i spotted a spray plane i got shivers. They sure fly some sad looking wrecks, not much Transport Canada oversight in ag flying.
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Old 12-25-2012, 04:08 PM   #4023
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I worked as an adjuster for a few years and handled lots of chemical drift claims, mainly for 2,-4D (Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa, Oklahoma, etc...). It can be pretty complicated and expensive for an insurer, and inevitably, the insured. I found that the best negotiation tactic was to sit down with a cup of coffee and piece of pie at the nearest diner after we looked at the damage. I learned a lot about navigating by having to find grass strips in the middle of millions of acres of wheat before we even dreamed of GPS, lots about flying as a low-time pilot landing in huge crosswinds on those often pretty short grass strips (compared to the runways I usually used), lots about chemicals, how they're used and how they work, and lots about people by having to figure out what was fair. I can't imagine the type of flying you guys do day-in and day-out.
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Old 12-25-2012, 05:55 PM   #4024
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Not much Transport Canada oversight in ag flying.
I hate to say it but there isn't much TC oversight in any aspect of aviation. Maybe just as well because they don't know very much.
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Old 12-26-2012, 07:23 AM   #4025
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I hate to say it but there isn't much TC oversight in any aspect of aviation. Maybe just as well because they don't know very much.
That used to be true since it used to be an "old boys club" and most got hired by their military buddies managing TC . Unfortunatly most had no civi experience and no clue on how to operate a company and make money in aviation hence the Air Navigation Orders previous to the CARs. I must say things have changed with more commercial aviation guys more in tune with the "bottom line".
Of course now with the budget reductions and cuts the topo changes again with everyone staying put in the office. Not to mention most aircraft advertised for sale on the government surplus website clipping their wings even further. An increase in fatals in the last year might swing the pendulum back but who knows...And don't get me going on "Safety Management System" or "SMS" companies regulating themselves??? the wolf guarding the sheep...

Enough babble...you guys running out of a/c pictures or what ???
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Old 12-26-2012, 08:06 AM   #4026
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[QUOTE=Beamer Pilot;20330122]That used to be true since it used to be an "old boys club" and most got hired by their military buddies managing TC . And don't get me going on "Safety Management System" or "SMS" companies regulating themselves??? the wolf guarding the sheep... /QUOTE]

Good post but from a cockpit perspective - mine is from the ground and therefore different. TC's flight department fleet reductions have very little to do with safety enforcement - two different departments. The enforcement end of things have much vested in 'SMS' and so that will be the ongoing way of the future - until I leave the industry in a few years. The big impetus for safety is corporate/personal liability is my read and why I would never consider working for a smaller organization. As you say, bring on the pictures...
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Old 12-26-2012, 12:27 PM   #4027
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Ok, I'm in a bit of a predicament.

For Christmas my gf's parents gave both of us a "ticket" redeemable for either a 1hr balloon ride, 1hr glider (airplane) ride or a free tandem skydive jump.

The conflict is instinctively I want to do the glider ride as eventually I would like to have some sort of pilot's license, but how often in your life do you get a free chance at sky diving?
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Old 12-26-2012, 12:33 PM   #4028
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Why do your parents hate you?

I wouldn't sweat it - the government has even less time to oversee any of those activities and therefore it should be safe.
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Old 12-26-2012, 01:11 PM   #4029
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Skydive. I've not done it but a I think a tandem jump free fall would be awesome. And as placid as a balloon ride might seem I once started to read the commercial balloon pilots study book. There were and alarming number of ways to get scared, injured, or come to grief.
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Old 12-26-2012, 02:04 PM   #4030
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Old 12-26-2012, 05:12 PM   #4031
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Am skydive is harder to set up, and lots less common than the others, so I would go with that. Its easy to get an "Intro" ride at any flight school.
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Old 12-26-2012, 05:47 PM   #4032
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Skydive...no not a tandem ride. Take the full course and have a ball or cry like a girl. Altough I rather enjoyed my first one. other than getting my ass booted out of the Nord Atlas by "mon adjudant" over Corsica. Same scenario three month later over N'Djamena...without the boot...circa spring 1979 I digress again...
Lets see now balloon...controlled crash on arrival not my forte probably the reason i never did it...
Glider did it a few times but never got licensed...not really a fan of flying for 10 minutes if the winds don't cooperate.
So, i would handle it this way..."What would YOU like to do sweetheart ?" and run with that...
My two cents..
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Old 12-26-2012, 10:30 PM   #4033
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eventually I would like to have some sort of pilot's license, but how often in your life do you get a free chance at sky diving?

Depends on how bad a pilot you are
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Old 12-26-2012, 10:32 PM   #4034
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besides, skydiving is something that you do when the plane stops flying........
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Old 12-27-2012, 12:49 AM   #4035
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