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Old 04-21-2013, 08:29 AM   #4591
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Beamer Pilot, You bought yourself a Maule? Very nice. I'm very lucky to have a buddy who loans me his Citabria on occasion. Kind of fun to just go fool around for shits and giggles on gusty days. Always been a bit of a cross wind "specialist". Must be from my DC3 days. LOL! The only fairly "modern" machine I've had my paws on was a 733. Steam dials. Kind of like the "Racer". My licence number is lower than the guys I fly with. I'm really enjoying my semi-retirement King Air gig, flying a three day week, in jeans! Fly safe, all!
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Yeah, back into paying for flying...
Lots of old tail wheel time, minimal on 3s, some right seat on FPOX and FPOY owned by LAS back in the 70s. No license endorsement for me back then.

I get the license thing, you file a flight plan by phone and there is a time lag while they wait for the rest of the numbers...I also gave up on giving total flight time when asked...they figure you must be 80 or older...
As for retirement, staring at me...soon.
Possibly why I have so little time and patience for some of the occasional uneducated BS posted on various aviation sites.
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Old 04-21-2013, 09:39 AM   #4592
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Two weeks ago I was offered a flying job, in the same town, flying to the same places, in the same type of equipment, that I did in 1983. The pay then was fine, not over the top, but fine. This time the pay works out for inflation corrections at 61% less than it was 30 years ago. Of course 30 years of additional experience wouldn't have counted for anything either. I passed on it - staying unemployed. America is number one at thinking itself number one. For everything else....no, it isn't.
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Old 04-21-2013, 09:51 AM   #4593
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America is number one at thinking itself number one. For everything else....no, it isn't.
Dude, don't harsh the devine wonder and mysterious beauty of unfettered capitalism.


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Old 04-21-2013, 10:41 AM   #4594
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The reasons I don't have a G550 job* is despite trying to keep my mouth shut my suspicions about unfettered capitalism must be oozing from my pores and that sets off the "intruder alert" alarms. (* I am not a naive communist pinko, I am a mild capitalist, but not unfettered, and not all corporations are bad)
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Old 04-21-2013, 12:48 PM   #4595
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The reasons I don't have a G550 job* is despite trying to keep my mouth shut my suspicions about unfettered capitalism must be oozing from my pores and that sets off the "intruder alert" alarms. (* I am not a naive communist pinko, I am a mild capitalist, but not unfettered, and not all corporations are bad)
I'd love to fly a G550. I could NOT put up with the political bull shit, though. I'd probably tell the wrong guy to go fuck himself within the first week I'm very intolerant of stupidity!
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Old 04-21-2013, 02:06 PM   #4596
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There are some amazing corporate flying gigs. But there are also some that aren't. The trick, a mighty trick, is landing one of the former. A friend flew for this individual, a nice plane and all. Got a call at midnight and had to get up at 3 AM to tractor plow the private runway, take off at 6 AM, spend 3 days in Florida chained to a beeper (pre-cell phone) at a motel. He did get a call from the boss to go buy the boss some underwear. He couldn't find the giant size he needn't (got the largest he could find though) and so he was berated by the boss. Friend now flies for UPS.
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Old 04-21-2013, 03:27 PM   #4597
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I'd love to fly a G550. I could NOT put up with the political bull shit, though. I'd probably tell the wrong guy to go fuck himself within the first week I'm very intolerant of stupidity!
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Old 04-21-2013, 03:44 PM   #4598
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Unfortunately, by the time the door slams behind you there will be four guys competing for your job willing to take it for lower pay - that is the problem with aviation until you get into the heavies and then the bullshit shifts but doesn't stop.
The "amazing corporate flying gigs" are at the mercy of the bean counters and the economy as we can see today. No telling how long they will last.
In the 80s (oil downturn) every bum panhandling in the streets of Calgary had a Citation endorsement.
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Old 04-21-2013, 04:52 PM   #4599
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Up here in the GWN, where Beamer Pilot and I fly, there are pilots lining up to spend upwards of ten thousand dollars in upfront money to "buy" a job. Actually, 10K is pretty standard. Can any industry be more fucked up that aviation in Canada? I very much doubt it!
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Old 04-21-2013, 05:12 PM   #4600
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Lion Air 737 the other day that dropped in on short final at Bali had a pay to fly Indian FO. Although I've flown in both those respective countries and while I have no idea what actually happened the FO paid 50,000 euro's for that type rating and the job. Probably showed up with 200-400 hours, at the most, (some of which can be Parker P51 time or today's digital version) Pretty sweet: Pilots will spend $75k for a job in a part of the world where there is a shortage of pilots (SE Asia).
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:50 PM   #4601
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Lion Air 737 the other day that dropped in on short final at Bali had a pay to fly Indian FO. Although I've flown in both those respective countries and while I have no idea what actually happened the FO paid 50,000 euro's for that type rating and the job. Probably showed up with 200-400 hours, at the most, (some of which can be Parker P51 time or today's digital version) Pretty sweet: Pilots will spend $75k for a job in a part of the world where there is a shortage of pilots (SE Asia).
I read that the captain took over an unstabilized approach by the FO and no one payed attention after that. Then people went swimming.
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John Woo & Terence Chang’s ‘Flying Tigers’ Adds New Investors In Beijing

Cyrte Investments and China Film Co. have come on board with John Woo and Terence Chang for their ambitious Flying Tigers feature film and miniseries project. The feature version will be released as a two-part movie in China while the miniseries will be broadcast as a six hour project internationally. The announcement that the Dutch boutique firm would be putting money in the project along with China Film was made today during the Beijing International Film Festival. A public signing ceremony was held and attended by Cyrte CEO Frank Botman, CFG Chairman Han Sanping, Chang and Woo among others. The director and Chang will produce the films and TV miniseries about the volunteer fighter squadron formed by General Claire Chennault to help the Chinese fight against Japan before the U.S. entered WWII under their Lion Rock Productions banner. Cyrte says it will work with its portfolio company Exclusive Media to assist with the Flying Tigers project. China Film had been involved with the Flying Tiger project in its early stages a couple of years back. The film will be shot in English, Lion Rock says.
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Old 04-23-2013, 10:39 AM   #4603
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I read that the captain took over an unstabilized approach by the FO and no one payed attention after that. Then people went swimming.
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Old 04-23-2013, 01:29 PM   #4604
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A year or two ago I was thinking about going back to Indonesia again to fly for a Lion Air company but I was discouraged of from a pilot at the company who was quitting.

One thing about Indonesian aviation is that finding out what really happened isn't always so easy or so clear. I am not piling on Indonesia, its a fantastic place, also a very beautiful place to fly - even if it is perhaps rather wild west in the skies. I wasn't there that long but in that time some rather alarming accidents and incidents occurred. They also seem to have more than their fair share of what seem to be inexplicable or totally unique, things that would almost be funny, except for the injuries and fatalities, or hull losses. If it isn't too much of a thread drift let me know if anyone wants some stories...
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Old 04-23-2013, 01:40 PM   #4605
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How to get the A 12 to Groom Lake

Found this on another site so i thought i would bring over to yous guys

This is really cool old school aviation on the cutting edge

http://www.roadrunnersinternationale..._the_a-12.html
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