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Old 08-04-2013, 09:44 PM   #5116
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Sometimes an aircraft just looks right. This guy does powerline patrol and and stops in from time to time. I'm not certain why he's got the tricycle gear. Anyway, here it is...a Found FBA-2C3 Expedition. Powered by a Lycoming IO-580, according to Wikipedia

Agreed (and that's a "right" looking airplane).

For me...it's always been...

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Old 08-04-2013, 10:12 PM   #5117
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Or the one with the round engine
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Old 08-04-2013, 10:34 PM   #5118
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Old 08-05-2013, 08:13 AM   #5119
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One other alternative to the aerovee engine, though still expensive, is the Viking engine. It has some pluses as well as minuses, depending on what you read about.
http://www.vikingaircraftengines.com/viking-onex.htm
Careful with this company. The owner's last company was Eggenfellner Aircraft engines, which built Subaru conversions primarily for the experimental aircraft market. They looked like a good package and I was sorely tempted. Thankfully by the time I made that decision it was clear that it would be a bad idea. Incomplete engines delivered over a year after payment, 3 gearbox redesigns, each of which required current owners to replace their units at their own expense, and continuous updates without support for the previous year's product.

Although he is clearly a good designer, some things (like PRSUs) require actual engineering, something the company refused to do. TLAR (That Looks About Right) is not always the best engineering solution.

RV's with his subaru conversions are universally heavy, slow, and unreliable. There is one sitting on my field now because the owner can't afford the (third) gearbox for the thing. The aircraft is worth less than the airframe without the engine because of all the work required to convert to Lycoming. Another is airworthy (on it's third gearbox) but has only been airworthy for about 50% of it's 10 year existence. All because of the engine package.

Here is one person's experience: http://www.meyette.us/engine.htm
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Old 08-05-2013, 08:37 AM   #5120
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Careful with this company. The owner's last company was Eggenfellner Aircraft engines, which built Subaru conversions primarily for the experimental aircraft market. They looked like a good package and I was sorely tempted. Thankfully by the time I made that decision it was clear that it would be a bad idea. Incomplete engines delivered over a year after payment, 3 gearbox redesigns, each of which required current owners to replace their units at their own expense, and continuous updates without support for the previous year's product.

Although he is clearly a good designer, some things (like PRSUs) require actual engineering, something the company refused to do. TLAR (That Looks About Right) is not always the best engineering solution.

RV's with his subaru conversions are universally heavy, slow, and unreliable. There is one sitting on my field now because the owner can't afford the (third) gearbox for the thing. The aircraft is worth less than the airframe without the engine because of all the work required to convert to Lycoming. Another is airworthy (on it's third gearbox) but has only been airworthy for about 50% of it's 10 year existence. All because of the engine package.

Here is one person's experience: http://www.meyette.us/engine.htm
That was the bad part of what I was reading about them.
I've found a few posts here and there about shady practices, as well as reading poor or nonexistant responses on the yahoo forums.
That may very well be why Sonex doesn't want to promote their engine packages.
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Old 08-05-2013, 09:12 AM   #5121
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Whether or not you can make a light enough a/c engine from a subaru, you have to work pretty hard (or way overstress one) to get crappy reliability out of 'em.

Rolling your own ECU- not a path to reliability.
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Old 08-05-2013, 10:19 AM   #5122
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Good points.
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Old 08-05-2013, 06:21 PM   #5123
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Prophetic!

This one is perfect! Even though it pretty much sums up my life (except the license part), I was still !
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Old 08-06-2013, 09:23 AM   #5124
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How would any aviation publication misspell Nimitz, especially in the first sentence of an article?
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Old 08-06-2013, 02:56 PM   #5125
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maybe they would spell it Nimits?
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Old 08-06-2013, 04:47 PM   #5126
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I'm watching Special Forces and saw an awesome landing scene. Here is a youtube clip.

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Old 08-06-2013, 04:58 PM   #5127
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I'm watching Special Forces and saw an awesome landing scene. Here is a youtube clip.

Special forces - and NO ONE saw the dust cloud!
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Old 08-06-2013, 05:01 PM   #5128
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Special forces - and NO ONE saw the dust cloud!
They were just transfering from the plane to the helicopter. The helicopter then took them to the base. So they were far away
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Old 08-06-2013, 05:17 PM   #5129
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I'm watching Special Forces and saw an awesome landing scene. Here is a youtube clip.

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Old 08-06-2013, 07:50 PM   #5130
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I can only imagine the inspections required after that.
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