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Old 07-09-2009, 05:31 PM   #121
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I'll try to help out a little here but since I haven't seen a "released" unit I don't know if Garmin made any changes since my early evaluation unit (back to the beginning of this thread you will find my eval).

The Garmin 620/640 is a "dual-boot" device. The Marine features are completely separate software from the Automotive (land navigation) features software. I think of this unit as a marginal Chartplotter taped back to back with a very low function Nuvi. None of the features really interact between Marine Mode and Automotive Mode. It is one of the most bumbled attempts to create a new Chartplotter I could have imagined.

Hope that helps.

If you want a Chartplotter that can do "everything" well but is based on very old [at this point] hardware/software then the 478 or 276/376 (are your best bet). Don't buy a 378 as the Routing software/maps are not compatible with City Navigator NT that you might use on your PC or other Garmin units.

Garmins' warning:

"Important Note about GPSMAP 378 Maps:


The GPSMAP® 378 comes preloaded with U.S. Inland Lakes and City Navigator NT data. These two detailed sets of maps are combined together in the 378 to form one large, comprehensive set of data that covers both land and sea.

Because of the unique way the map data has been combined and loaded, the GPSMAP 378 is not compatible with Garmin's City Navigator NT North America DVD, which is sold separately. For example, if you use this City Navigator NT DVD to plan routes on your computer and transfer them to the 378, the unit will recalculate each transferred route."

If you build in Mapsource using City Navigator NT maps or you get a route from someone else you will not be able to import that route into the 378 "unmolested". It will be recalculated and quite potentially changed.
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Old 07-10-2009, 06:44 AM   #122
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I think of this unit as a marginal Chartplotter taped back to back with a very low function Nuvi. None of the features really interact between Marine Mode and Automotive Mode. It is one of the most bumbled attempts to create a new Chartplotter I could have imagined.
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Old 07-10-2009, 09:54 AM   #123
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The Garmin 620/640 is a "dual-boot" device. The Marine features are completely separate software from the Automotive (land navigation) features software. I think of this unit as a marginal Chartplotter taped back to back with a very low function Nuvi. None of the features really interact between Marine Mode and Automotive Mode. It is one of the most bumbled attempts to create a new Chartplotter I could have imagined.
DRTBYK, so if you are on "marine" mode and you happen to have an additional map on your SD card...you cannot choose to view it, instead of the one loaded in the internal memory?
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Old 07-14-2009, 10:26 AM   #124
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After reading all this, buying a spare 276 might be in order....
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Old 07-16-2009, 09:52 AM   #125
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Sorry - don't know. I may be near the Garmin Gallery (Downtown Chicago) this weekend - they have one on display and I'll try to check it out for you.
Did you have a chance to stop by their showroom?
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Old 07-20-2009, 02:40 PM   #126
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Well reading this thread convinced me to send my 276C to Garmin and have them redo it for about 160 bucks if I remember right. Getting some black lines in the screen and a little fuzzing at the top. May as well take advantage of their offer and let my trusty ole 276C carry me for many more years. ;-)
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Old 07-30-2009, 02:01 AM   #127
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A follow up on my dealing with Garmin on repairing my 276C that has seen duty on an '02 R1150Gs, '00 KLR650, '97 DR350SE, '02 DRZ400SE, '06 DL1000, '07 Bandit 1250S and '04 DR650 on all kinds of roads and weather. Probably about 80 to 90 thousand miles I'm thinking.
I took advantage of Garmin's rebuild for 160 dollars. Emailed them and received my shipping number, packed it and shipped Via Post office insured for 500 bucks. Got it back yesterday and opened the box. Note says they replaced my unit ( serial number ) with another (serial number ) . Looks brand new. No marks, scratches or anything. Even some charge in the battery.
I'm just tickle pink with this transaction.
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Old 07-30-2009, 05:30 AM   #128
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That's awesome customer service and a great deal!!!!
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Old 09-21-2009, 03:01 PM   #129
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276C NEW GEN coming soon

My 276C recently had a screen failure after a drop to the ground. Also the antenna was broken and the battery was getting tired. I thought of upgrading to a 620 but soon found all of the shortcomings too much of a setback. Instead I paid the fixed sum of 110£ and got a replacement 276C. A 5 min phonecall to the supportteam and all my bluechartmaps for my yacht and roadmaps for the bike were restored on the new unit.

Oh. I wrote an email to Garmin and specified my dreamunit and told them not to make it anything like the zumo or 620/640. I want a 276C new generation.

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Old 10-06-2009, 10:47 AM   #130
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Does anybody know if the 640's software has been updated in order to record and save tracks when in land mode?
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Old 10-06-2009, 10:55 AM   #131
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Does anybody know if the 640's software has been updated in order to record and save tracks when in land mode?
Are they supposed too?
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Old 10-06-2009, 01:23 PM   #132
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Old 08-20-2010, 01:06 AM   #133
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i'm bringing this back up and more than ever agree.
with droids, iphones poping into everyone lap (or in their next phone upgrade time) garmin is on a lossing battle unless the work with their core.

it won't take long for soccer mom to say hey this new phone has a gps & map (with an awesome screen) so why do i want to bring the getting older nuvi (that's harder to read) along with me.

"honey could you put that nuvi in the bottom drawer next to my palm pilot. i might use it again one day"


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Right - but that lowest common denominator class of users will not provide bread and butter to Garmin for much longer, as that lowest common denominator of features/functionality will be included in virtually every new phone device and/or every new car that gets released from here on. Soccer moms won't want/need nuvis for long, once they learn how to use that basic GPS functionality on their phones.

Point being: IMO, Garmin's future as a GPS device producer MUST re-think this "mass-market" strategy - raise the bar and cater to more specialized users - or they will die...
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Old 09-18-2010, 10:16 AM   #134
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620/640 A pig with bad lipstick?

I guess Garmin rarely ever improves the features on a unit once it is released. When I saw these listed as chartplotters, I thought they might have potential as a 276 replacement.

Epic fail.
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Old 09-18-2010, 10:32 AM   #135
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I guess Garmin rarely ever improves the features on a unit once it is released.
Garmin has at times added significant function to a model via software, firmware and even hardware. But so far the 640 hasn't benefited.

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