Alternative fuel pumps for FI KTM990 - Page 5

PowerCell · 08-18-2009, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tahoeacr

Powercell,
I hope it works better for you than I. Nothing but crap from Aeromotive. Couldn't get there pumps to last even a month. Good thing is if you ordered it from Summit or Jegs, they will take it back when it goes South.

Hey Tahoe, what model pump did you use? What type of failures did you experience? What did you use for a pressure regulator?

Head2Wind · 08-19-2009, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by tahoeacr

Powercell,
I hope it works better for you than I. Nothing but crap from Aeromotive. Couldn't get there pumps to last even a month. Good thing is if you ordered it from Summit or Jegs, they will take it back when it goes South.

suggested alternative? Walbro?

fast4d · 08-19-2009, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by PowerCell

I ordered one of these last night to try on my SE950R fuel injection conversion. I'll let everyone know how it holds up...

Also got one of these to handle the fuel pressure and allow overage to return to the tank...

that's way too much pump. you're going to heat the fuel when it circulates excessively. unless you lower the voltage supplied. I've had experience with aeromotive external pumps. they DON'T like being run dry so take that into consideration when mounting.

what's the output of the stock pump?

I think it would be much better to use a walbro intank pump. they are OEM quality and will last a long time.

tahoeacr · 08-19-2009, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PowerCell

Hey Tahoe, what model pump did you use? What type of failures did you experience? What did you use for a pressure regulator?

I think it was A1000. Cartech pressure regulators but there not reliable enough I think for this application.

I prefer in line Bosch or Walbro. I've had 100% success with these.

LukasM · 08-24-2009, 07:57 AM

PowerCell,

Please me updated on your findings. I am using an FI engine (Kawi 650) in my project bike that will be equipped with the 4 tanks from a carbed 660 Rally and I am not sure which way to go yet. I'll probably need a surge tank, inline fuel pump and a return style pressure regulator (45psi) as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tahoeacr

I think it was A1000. Cartech pressure regulators but there not reliable enough I think for this application.

I prefer in line Bosch or Walbro. I've had 100% success with these.

Do you happen to have any particular recommendations? All the ones I have seen at Jegs and Summit have very high draw since they flow lots of fuel - way more than I need anyway.

fast4d · 08-24-2009, 09:09 AM

I used an A1000 for about 10k miles. I had its predecessor (same design)for about 40k miles. I upgraded because it was not adequate for the HP I was making (550rwhp).

you must run the filter AFTER the pump.

Head2Wind · 08-24-2009, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by fast4d

you must run the filter AFTER the pump.

ya, a lot of pumps do not like the restriction on the intake side, makes the pump run hotter too. the 5 micron serviceable one looks like the ticket.

PowerCell · 09-18-2009, 10:36 AM

OK, here's an external pump that might help the 990 guys out. It's a Keihin product found on a Honda quad. Puts out 70 liters per hour at 2.4 amps. Includes a pickup filter and is very easy to service. Cost from Cheapcycleparts was $115. The only problems I currently see is the internal pressure regulator is set to 42psi, but I think it will be pretty simple to bump it up to 51. And the other problem is where to install it?

PowerCell · 09-30-2009, 03:25 PM

If anyone has a dead 990 fuel pump that they no longer need (or care to look at), can you send me a PM. I'm looking for parts off the orginal unit for an experiment I've got going on my SE.

Also, I might have a lead on a cheap fuel filter that would be a factory fit, and I'd like to check it out and see if everything will fit correctly...

gefr · 09-30-2009, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by PowerCell

I'm looking for parts off the orginal unit for an experiment I've got going on my SE.

The motor shape and dimentions look similar to OEM. The rest system of the OEM should be undamaged, except the filters. This could be a solution. Cheers.

PowerCell · 09-30-2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by gefr

The motor shape and dimentions look similar to OEM. The rest system of the OEM should be undamaged, except the filters. This could be a solution. Cheers.

What pump are you referring to Gefr?

gefr · 09-30-2009, 10:24 PM

Isn't that the one you are trying to find a replacement for?

PowerCell · 09-30-2009, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gefr

Isn't that the one you are trying to find a replacement for?

No, I'm working on something completely different, but keeping an eye out for 990 solutions that might help others...

Head2Wind · 10-01-2009, 02:44 PM

I have a Denso pump out of a CBR600F4i that I have been chasing around trying to find spec's to no avail. Denso doesn't list it as a replacement so no pump graphs/details. Price might be better that the KTM part, however this latest unit that PowerCell is showing looks promising.

PowerCell, what are the dimensions of the "cell" that contains the pump and bits?

there is a low lph Walbro out there too, might be interesting to pursue, however does not have the integrated pressure regulator.

PowerCell · 10-01-2009, 02:50 PM

It's about 6" tall, by 4" wide...

The smallest Walbro you want to run is the GSL393 at 160 LPH. The GLS395 (130 LPH) is only good for about 30psi...

08-24-2009, 09:09 AM	#66
fast4d Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Oddometer: 1,547	I used an A1000 for about 10k miles. I had its predecessor (same design)for about 40k miles. I upgraded because it was not adequate for the HP I was making (550rwhp). you must run the filter AFTER the pump. __________________ Alan 2011 KTM RC8R 2012 BMW S1000RR 2000 Kawasaki ZRX1100

09-18-2009, 10:36 AM	#68
PowerCell SE990R Joined: Sep 2005 Location: Southern Kalifornia Oddometer: 1,928	OK, here's an external pump that might help the 990 guys out. It's a Keihin product found on a Honda quad. Puts out 70 liters per hour at 2.4 amps. Includes a pickup filter and is very easy to service. Cost from Cheapcycleparts was $115. The only problems I currently see is the internal pressure regulator is set to 42psi, but I think it will be pretty simple to bump it up to 51. And the other problem is where to install it? __________________ ~ Ken

09-30-2009, 03:25 PM	#69
PowerCell SE990R Joined: Sep 2005 Location: Southern Kalifornia Oddometer: 1,928	If anyone has a dead 990 fuel pump that they no longer need (or care to look at), can you send me a PM. I'm looking for parts off the orginal unit for an experiment I've got going on my SE. Also, I might have a lead on a cheap fuel filter that would be a factory fit, and I'd like to check it out and see if everything will fit correctly... __________________ ~ Ken

09-30-2009, 10:24 PM	#72
gefr Life is a trip Joined: Nov 2005 Location: East Med, Greece Oddometer: 3,125	The OEM 990Adv Isn't that the one you are trying to find a replacement for? __________________ There is always a reason!! gefr screwed with this post 09-30-2009 at 10:31 PM

10-01-2009, 02:44 PM	#74
Head2Wind MotorcycleMayhem Joined: Mar 2006 Location: NorthWet Washington Oddometer: 2,159	I have a Denso pump out of a CBR600F4i that I have been chasing around trying to find spec's to no avail. Denso doesn't list it as a replacement so no pump graphs/details. Price might be better that the KTM part, however this latest unit that PowerCell is showing looks promising. PowerCell, what are the dimensions of the "cell" that contains the pump and bits? there is a low lph Walbro out there too, might be interesting to pursue, however does not have the integrated pressure regulator. __________________ “The mind is sharper and keener in seclusion and uninterrupted solitude. --- Be alone, that is the secret of invention; be alone, that is when ideas are born.” - Nikola Tesla 2008 KTM 690 ADV- 2006 KTM 970 frankinADVsmSD ADVmachines™ Proven Solutions for your Worldwide Adventures...www.ADVmachines.com

10-01-2009, 02:50 PM	#75
PowerCell SE990R Joined: Sep 2005 Location: Southern Kalifornia Oddometer: 1,928	It's about 6" tall, by 4" wide... The smallest Walbro you want to run is the GSL393 at 160 LPH. The GLS395 (130 LPH) is only good for about 30psi... __________________ ~ Ken

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