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Old 01-12-2009, 05:13 AM   #1
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Is a used 2004 K1200GT serious bang for the buck, or what?

In the used market, a few-year-old BMW R1200GT seems like a lot of bike for the money. Any flaws that one should be aware of in, say, a 2004 model?
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Old 01-12-2009, 05:39 AM   #2
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In the used market, a few-year-old BMW R1200GT seems like a lot of bike for the money. Any flaws that one should be aware of in, say, a 2004 model?

Are you asking about a K1200GT? There is no R1200GT that I'm aware of.
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Old 01-12-2009, 05:56 AM   #3
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In the used market, a few-year-old BMW R1200GT seems like a lot of bike for the money. Any flaws that one should be aware of in, say, a 2004 model?
It is very quick, and very heavy. Kind of long, so stable for distance, but a little slow on the turn-in in the twisties.

It is called a "Brick" for a reason. Very reliable, and quite capable of going 200K miles.

The only downside mechanically are the final drive is slightly weak, though most have no issies with it, and the ABS if Servo-equipped means a bit more work for maintenance, but that is not that bad either.

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Old 01-12-2009, 09:09 AM   #4
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It is very quick, and very heavy. Kind of long, so stable for distance, but a little slow on the turn-in in the twisties.

It is called a "Brick" for a reason. Very reliable, and quite capable of going 200K miles.

The only downside mechanically are the final drive is slightly weak, though most have no issies with it, and the ABS if Servo-equipped means a bit more work for maintenance, but that is not that bad either.

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So there is a R1200GT?
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Old 01-12-2009, 09:21 AM   #5
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There is no R1200GT.
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Old 01-12-2009, 09:41 AM   #6
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R1200GT... what would this be? an RS with more touring capabilities probably?



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Old 01-12-2009, 10:46 AM   #7
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So there is a R1200GT?
No, no R/GT anything, so I was figuring he was referring to a K1200GT, that is the only GT in 04, and there were no R1200's in 04 except the GS in Europe and CA, so the K1200GT was the only logical bike.



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Old 01-12-2009, 11:03 AM   #8
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ive always thought they were one of the best deals out there on used bikes. i like the RS a little bit more than the GT, but either way i don't think you can go wrong. great bikes for the price. and they will run forever. if i wasnt in the market for an airhead gs, this is what i would buy.

plenty of power, good ergonomics, tours well, and has the k bike reliability. what else could you want?
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Old 01-12-2009, 11:20 AM   #9
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ive always thought they were one of the best deals out there on used bikes. i like the RS a little bit more than the GT, but either way i don't think you can go wrong. great bikes for the price. and they will run forever. if i wasnt in the market for an airhead gs, this is what i would buy.

plenty of power, good ergonomics, tours well, and has the k bike reliability. what else could you want?

some feeling in the handling, a lower center of gravity, more neutral ergos... the newer one seems to have figured it out more, but not as much as an R12RT...
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Old 01-12-2009, 01:28 PM   #10
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some feeling in the handling, a lower center of gravity, more neutral ergos... the newer one seems to have figured it out more, but not as much as an R12RT...
i should have been more specific. i think the k12rs from the 90's are the best deal going. by the time it got to 2002, they were outdated. comparing them to a r12rt is unfair, especially when you consider the difference a decade makes.

and my comment was relative to other bikes similarly priced to the 90's k12.

it could also be pointed out that the things you mentioned are personal taste.
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Old 01-12-2009, 03:48 PM   #11
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Are you asking about a K1200GT? There is no R1200GT that I'm aware of.
My bad -- I'm an R bike owner. I meant a K1200GT.

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Old 01-12-2009, 03:59 PM   #12
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No, no R/GT anything, so I was figuring he was referring to a K1200GT, that is the only GT in 04, and there were no R1200's in 04 except the GS in Europe and CA, so the K1200GT was the only logical bike.



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My dealer has a 2004 in that gray-green metallic color like the bike in the back of this photo. It has 10,563 miles and they are asking $9250. It's not perfect, but Jeez, under ten large for a ride like that seems cheap.
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Old 01-12-2009, 04:26 PM   #13
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If you like a big GT bike -- in the vein of a Blackbird or Busa -- and want the typical BMW features -- ABS, hard bags, heated grips, telelever -- it's a great bike and a superb value. But it won't perform with the much-cheaper Blackbird or Busa, doesn't have the overall weather protection, luggage capacity (the exhaust side bag is severely compromised), and comfort of something like the FJR or ST1300, and is quite cumbersome in the tight stuff compared to something like the R1150RT. It's somewhere right in the middle. Which is the best of all worlds or the worst of all worlds, depending entirely on your POV.

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Old 01-12-2009, 04:35 PM   #14
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Great motor on the earlier K1200 bikes. But I felt the riding position was awkward, with fairly high footpegs and a long reach to the handlebars. I've always wondered why BMW moved away from the K1000/1100's much more relaxed, comfortable riding position.
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Old 01-12-2009, 05:31 PM   #15
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I used to have a 2003 K1200GT. Too abusive for the ergos on long rides. Cramped leg room and tiny pegs leave the comfort level a bit less than desired. Its fast. My GT had a power commander and remus. Very quick! The weight of the Kmotor male it smooth. It is a brick and is very slow into the turns. Dont expect this to be anything like the R bikes. Its a bit fo a misfit bike to me. The people that enjoy the sporting position want ti to perform better int he twisites and the poeple that expect the sooth ride and straight line performance ususally buy bigger touring bikes. I think this why you see so many for sale and a huge depreciation.
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