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Old 05-10-2011, 02:32 PM   #691
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Shorty pants thread?

Nice XL
My 1st bike was an '83 XL250. I bought a brand new XR250L in '93 because I
thought it would be so much better....
Nice bike also but the '83 just felt better/I was a better rider on it.

Not sure if that makes any sense.
Maybe it was just because it was my 1st motorcycle?
thanks and yup shortypants thread http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=669666

Sure it makes sense, I think we always have a soft spot for our first bike.
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Old 05-11-2011, 09:22 PM   #692
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OK, now the fun begins. Got the Clymer's manual - not impressed.

Pulled the gas tank, seat and carb. The manual does not match up well with the carb I have in the 1976 XL250 as far as the slide, spring & main jet area goes.

The main problem with the bike was that it only ran at full choke until warm, then partial choke thereafter. The pilot jet looks OK, but the air screw, according to the manual, has the screw & a spring. Mine has the screw, tiny metal washer and what appears to have been a rubber washer that was in pieces in the spring and at the end of the inlet hole.

The manual lends no clue as to how to remove the slide and does not show the side throttle lever action. I've rebuilt a couple of carbs, but they were pretty simple with the throttle cable going into the slide and attaching to a clip. This one has me a bit perplexed as there are two nuts with metal retaining clips and two small screws at the bottom of the throat. I need to get that apart to check the main jet and clean things. The bowl had a fair amount of varnishing, floats look OK.

One consideration is that I may be putting on a Supertrap or similar exhaust as the stock one is broken off at the end (spark arrestor is gone). I will be riding about 50/50 street/dirt.

Would appreciate some input on the carb & exhaust when someone has time. Will address the lighting if/when I cannot solve those issues.

FWIW, I have a bunch of older Honda plastics that I picked up a couple of years ago. Have no idea of what they fit. Will try to get a link up to them soon.

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Old 05-11-2011, 09:38 PM   #693
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OK, now the fun begins. Got the Clymer's manual - not impressed.

Pulled the gas tank, seat and carb. The manual does not match up well with the carb I have in the 1976 XL250 as far as the slide, spring & main jet area goes.

The main problem with the bike was that it only ran at full choke until warm, then partial choke thereafter. The pilot jet looks OK, but the air screw, according to the manual, has the screw & a spring. Mine has the screw, tiny metal washer and what appears to have been a rubber washer that was in pieces in the spring and at the end of the inlet hole.

The manual lends no clue as to how to remove the slide and does not show the side throttle lever action. I've rebuilt a couple of carbs, but they were pretty simple with the throttle cable going into the slide and attaching to a clip. This one has me a bit perplexed as there are two nuts with metal retaining clips and two small screws at the bottom of the throat. I need to get that apart to check the main jet and clean things. The bowl had a fair amount of varnishing, floats look OK.

One consideration is that I may be putting on a Supertrap or similar exhaust as the stock one is broken off at the end (spark arrestor is gone). I will be riding about 50/50 street/dirt.

Would appreciate some input on the carb & exhaust when someone has time. Will address the lighting if/when I cannot solve those issues.

FWIW, I have a bunch of older Honda plastics that I picked up a couple of years ago. Have no idea of what they fit. Will try to get a link up to them soon.

TIA.
Heres the parts fish.

http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmot...4408#sch405411
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Old 05-11-2011, 09:48 PM   #694
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Thanks. Helps with the gasket issue & explains the rubber pieces in the air screw.
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Old 05-11-2011, 09:59 PM   #695
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Thanks. Helps with the gasket issue & explains the rubber pieces in the air screw.
My current Xl is an 82 XL500R, I needed the plastic top for the carb. It was discontinued, the guy at my local dealership found one in Ohio so don't take for granted a discontinued part does not exist. The parts fish is your friend.
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Old 05-11-2011, 10:04 PM   #696
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This thread makes me miss my XL....
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Old 05-11-2011, 10:08 PM   #697
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Old 05-11-2011, 11:30 PM   #698
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OK, now the fun begins.
One consideration is that I may be putting on a Supertrap or similar exhaust as the stock one is broken off at the end (spark arrestor is gone). I will be riding about 50/50 street/dirt.
FWIW, I have a bunch of older Honda plastics that I picked up a couple of years ago. Have no idea of what they fit. Will try to get a link up to them soon.
TIA.
Are you interested in a super cheap, Supertrapp exhaust?

I've finally got my stock one fixed (rusted through around the drain opening)
& I'm about to put my homemade Supertrapp up for sale/trade.
It's a lot lighter than stock, but it's loud as hell.
(the older I get the quieter I like my bikes)
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Old 05-11-2011, 11:36 PM   #699
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This thread makes me miss my XL....
Fixed it for Ya
You might be a XL.... owner if:

You think mud is a good paint protector
Winterizing just means putting a tarp over it till tomorrow
You hit Home Depot and Tractor Supply for parts before you go to the motorcycle shop.
Every time you look at anything square shaped you think "Could that be a pannier?"
You like humvees and hate H2's
You've gone into an Army Surplus store to look for riding gear.
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Old 05-12-2011, 02:43 AM   #700
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OK, now the fun begins. Got the Clymer's manual - not impressed.
Yep Haynes manual is the best one, but out of print, not that difficult to find one through the bay. Second best is the dealer shop manual, but reads a bit like you should be filling out an invoice in between walks to the parts counter next door, also assumes you have the official dealer tool kit. The Clymer manual is so generic, condensed and covers too many very structurally different models, it's pretty useless. You could probably find a Kawa, Suzi, or Yami manual that was a more useful resource for a 4 valve XL.
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Old 05-12-2011, 03:21 AM   #701
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Fixed it for Ya
You might be a XL.... owner if:

You think mud is a good paint protector
Winterizing just means putting a tarp over it till tomorrow
You hit Home Depot and Tractor Supply for parts before you go to the motorcycle shop.
Every time you look at anything square shaped you think "Could that be a pannier?"
You like humvees and hate H2's
You've gone into an Army Surplus store to look for riding gear.
You weigh the importance of the battery about the same as a modern dual sport rider sees a fuse.

If the bike doesn't start by the third kick, you start to wonder where the closest screwdriver and plug wrench are, because there simply isn't too many possibilities of things it can be.

You have to keep reminding yourself to not put your foot down around turns.

You sometimes forget you have a front brake.

You view your engine as an easy to replace part and your dent free gas tank as irreplaceable.

The concept of traveling at highway speeds in the dark, on an unpaved road by the light of mediocre flash light seems reasonable.
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Old 05-12-2011, 07:16 AM   #702
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J-monkey - I'd be interested if there were some way to quiet it down. I'm only 66, but can't stand the noise either.
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Old 05-12-2011, 09:36 AM   #703
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J-monkey - I'd be interested if there were some way to quiet it down. I'm only 66, but can't stand the noise either.
No problem if you don't need it.
Mainly just wanted to warn Ya about how loud the Supertrapp can be.
I'm 42 & it was to loud for me.(Harley guys at work didn't think so,though.)
Places to ride around here are few & far between & "Quiet pipes,save trails"

Came with 12 discs & I tried 6 at first. (stock motor)
Ran good & had a hell of a bark climbing in the woods. just to loud.
Went as low as 3 trying to get it quieter. But 3 sounded like it was being clogged.

I'm sure someone out there that races or believes
"Loud pipes,save lives" can use it.
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Old 05-12-2011, 12:06 PM   #704
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Thanks for the info. I may jury-rig up some form of legal off road pipe.

Have a pic up a couple of pages back. I'm now taking it apart bit by bit - carb is out for rebuild, forks are next. Dealing with the head light quandry now.
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Old 05-13-2011, 08:31 PM   #705
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LINK to a bunch of Honda plastics I have available. Don't know what they fit. Also have some front fenders. PM me if you need info.
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