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Old 01-18-2009, 05:53 PM   #1
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I am thinking about taking a late 1970s, early 1980s GS750, stripping down to frame, painting black and sand, and putting a ural sidecar on it.

The GS750 does not look dissimilar from a Ural like a KLR650 does, and I think it would be a lot cheaper and more reliable.

Are there any things I should look out for in putting the rig on, or recommendations on where to pick a sidecar up? I was going to go through dauntless but they seem to no longer sell the Ural sidecar.
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Old 01-18-2009, 07:14 PM   #2
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You might want to look around for a kit Dnepr, or an older Ural you can cannibalize for the sidecar. If you're patient, it's often easier to sell the bike without the hack for not much less than you paid for it.

I have a SOHC 750GS ('79 model) although it's been on a long-term loan to a friend. I suggested to him the other day that it would make a good tug but he yelled at me that "Boris needs to be free"
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Old 01-19-2009, 04:34 AM   #3
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Sounds liek a good plan go for it.
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Old 01-19-2009, 09:22 AM   #4
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I am thinking about taking a late 1970s, early 1980s GS750, stripping down to frame, painting black and sand, and putting a ural sidecar on it.

The GS750 does not look dissimilar from a Ural like a KLR650 does, and I think it would be a lot cheaper and more reliable.

Are there any things I should look out for in putting the rig on, or recommendations on where to pick a sidecar up? I was going to go through dauntless but they seem to no longer sell the Ural sidecar.
I went the same route using a 2004 Bonneville. It'll do pretty much anything you like and is a happier experience than a 650 Ural I had back in 1999.

The Dauntless website and what's coming out of F2 in the UK is suggesting to me (by a roundabout route, only gossip really) that Ural is starting to worry about the number of us taking the chair without their bike. I get the impression Ural dealers are been told to sell whole bikes, not parts.

That said, nothing to stop you getting a older chair and some Dauntless kit to put it all together.

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Old 01-19-2009, 10:54 AM   #5
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The GS750 does not look dissimilar from a Ural like a KLR650 does
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Old 01-19-2009, 10:58 AM   #6
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I think your Ural outfits look EXACTLY like Suzuki 750'S
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Old 01-21-2009, 07:33 PM   #7
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Does anyone have advice on sourcing a Ural/Dnepr/CJ sidecar? I don't need anything new/fancy as I plan on painting and modifying anyway.
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Old 01-26-2009, 03:50 AM   #8
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Ok, I just picked up a 1967 Dnepr sidecar set-up. It is a little rough, but since I will be doing the painting and some other mods, I do not car. The price is right too, $600.

Now I need to start really looking at bikes. I am leaning towards a late 1970s Honda CB750.
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Old 01-26-2009, 06:55 PM   #9
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I ordered a Chair from CJ sidecar from china. I want to put it on a GL1000 or some such. $900 for the chair and $400 shipping.. Of course it has not arrived yet as he said it will be over 35 days in transit.. So I am waiting,, hope it works out.

I'm a little nervous I just pissed away my money, but nothing ventured nothing gained....
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Old 01-27-2009, 03:51 AM   #10
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Here are the first pics of the sidecar. It should be here sometime next week.

Now I need to start looking for a bike. I am thinking a late 1970s Honda CB750 because they are plentiful, cheap, notoriously reliable, and have a huge support network. I am worried if it will have the power to pull the hack however. One of the reasons in putting together my own set-up is to have a setup that can go 70-80mph if needed. I have looked at Honda Goldwing GL1000 also, but I think that they are too big, and their engine is probably too sophisticated. Any suggestions?





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Old 01-27-2009, 06:03 AM   #11
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I bet the CB750 will work fine. You might also look at the KZ from the same era -what did they have back then? KZ900 and KZ1000?
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Old 01-27-2009, 06:05 AM   #12
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How about an XS1100? Frame sucked for solo riding, but maybe it would work better for sidecar duty. Reliable shaft drive, and plenty of power!
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Old 01-27-2009, 06:20 AM   #13
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If I go with a KZ1000, I may as well go with this GL1000, which is "running" and going for $500. I am just worried that the engine will be costlier to work on and I am not sure how it will look if I put a ural front fender on and knobbies all the way around.

Also, my plan is to change the chrome (wheels, rear fender, engine guards) to black...I mean powder coat it black, but am unsure if chrome removal is possible.

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Old 01-27-2009, 06:41 AM   #14
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If I go with a KZ1000, I may as well go with this GL1000, which is "running" and going for $500. I am just worried that the engine will be costlier to work on and I am not sure how it will look if I put a ural front fender on and knobbies all the way around.

Also, my plan is to change the chrome (wheels, rear fender, engine guards) to black...I mean powder coat it black, but am unsure if chrome removal is possible.
The KZ will make more power for the weight. At the prices you are talking about these bikes are disposable-cheaper to get another POS and hook it up than to fix.

Spend less money on paint and more on the bike. Forget the 30+ year old bikes. Get the newest insurance write off you can. Strip the plastic and rattle can the the remains flat black. Reapply as needed.
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Old 01-27-2009, 07:25 AM   #15
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My Bonneville (790 cc, 60 hp) with a Ural chair has the following performance:

Economy cruise speed: Under 65 mph
Maximum cruise speed: 75 mph
Absolute maximum speed: 90 mph

These are measured with GPS. The difference between maximum cruise and economy is 8-10 mpg (Imperial), hence covering distance is best done at 100 kph on the mechanical speedo to extend range. At 90 even a Bonneville motor is reving too much to keep it up all day, it feels and sounds unhappy.

The aerodynamics of the Ural style chair seems to limit it's cruising speed potential unless you have a motor that'll put out 80 HP plus at economic RPM's.

Hope that helps

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