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Old 01-27-2009, 02:15 PM   #31
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You will need a subframe. The top front mount is tricky. Dauntless Motors has the best solution for mounts and is worth the money, but it is not cheap.

On my home built subframe I put the top front mount low, about the bottom of the front fender. I've posted some stuff here and at klrworld.com if you want to see how I did it.
Something like this?
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Old 01-27-2009, 02:17 PM   #32
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...you bought the sidecar, but look for a HD with a sidecar and see what is out there. I have seen sportsters with sidecars and think that is a neat set up. Reliable and torque enough to go down the road. Also, parts and dealers are everywhere.

Classic look, V-Twin torque and inexpensive.
Thanks for the suggestion and I am sure it is just an image issue for me, but I cannot imagine myself on a Harley. And that is the nicest possible way I could say it.
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Old 01-27-2009, 02:17 PM   #33
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Something like this?
nothing like that. That looks like a "universal" mount kit. I am not a big fan of "universal" mounts, even tho those appear to be good quality.
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Old 01-27-2009, 02:19 PM   #34
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http://klrworld.com/forums/index.php/topic,293.0.html

http://adventuresidecar.com/ASSFLEET/assfleet3.htm

http://klrworld.com/forums/index.php/topic,10924.0.html

http://dauntlessmotors.com/Mountingh...e/kawasaki.htm
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Old 01-27-2009, 02:19 PM   #35
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nothing like that. That looks like a "universal" mount kit. I am not a big fan of "universal" mounts, even tho those appear to be good quality.
Yes, it is the universal (they do not seem to have the KLR specific in but I can e-mail). I just wanted to ensure that I am in the ballpark. It is the subframe mount, as I should already have the subframe.
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Old 01-27-2009, 02:27 PM   #36
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this is the Dauntless Motors KLR sub frame



You still need the pieces to convert your Dnepr from ball an collet to heim joints at the bottom mounts to mate it to this.
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Old 01-27-2009, 02:43 PM   #37
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this is the Dauntless Motors KLR sub frame


You still need the pieces to convert your Dnepr from ball an collet to heim joints at the bottom mounts to mate it to this.
Thanks RedMenace. You are definitely the authority on the subject. I found it on Dauntless for $500.00. It is expensive, but worth it.

I think I may go KLR650. I realize that I am sacrificing overall cruise speed, but still think I can have a bargain set-up with the KLR and my Dnepr car and be able to travel at 60-65. I will just have to avoid interstates, something that is not that bad afterall.

I think that having a 70-80 mph bike is not really feasible unless I want to spend big bucks on an BMW R or a Triumph Tiger, both bikes that are relatively expensive to maintain. After considering the older Japanese, larger engine bikes, it seems like they are not a good fit either. And I am not interested in a big heavy street bike either.

Thanks for all the help! I am going to start looking at bikes and will update.
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Old 01-27-2009, 03:02 PM   #38
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You might want to set your anti HD bias aside and take another look at the Sportster. I think it might be a little more power than the KLR, but with some careful shopping you could come in around the same price range.

I have the same bias you do, but I keep looking at Sporty's as a possible ride. I wouldn't want one of the foot forward models( I HATE that seating position) but something set up like a flat tracker with a light hack, high pipes and a skid plate could be a hoot!

With either the KLR or something like a Sportster, you could use the Dnepr chassis with a lighter, more aerodynamic tub to get the most out of what little hp is there.
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Old 01-27-2009, 04:24 PM   #39
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Thanks RedMenace!

And just to give you an idea of just how cheap a nice Bandit can be:
http://knoxville.craigslist.org/mcy/1010326525.html

No relation to the seller whatsoever...
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Old 01-27-2009, 05:29 PM   #40
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Very good thread this,, taking notes.. Actually never thought of a sportster myself.. Would be a cool rig and American Iron, which I find kinda appealing.

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Old 01-27-2009, 05:33 PM   #41
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Flat Tracker Rig

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something set up like a flat tracker with a light hack, high pipes and a skid plate could be a hoot!
.....Ooh!...ooh! Pick me, pick me!

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Old 01-27-2009, 06:56 PM   #42
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Might want to contact Bueller. He used to have a Sporty rigged up w/car.
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Old 01-27-2009, 07:47 PM   #43
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Whats wrong with the GL1000? They are very smooth and will more than handle the Dnepr Sidecar. It would be a good rig and with a little suspension and a few guards underneath. It would be fine on Dirt roads if required.

Strong aftermarket parts for the old wings too.
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Old 01-27-2009, 08:02 PM   #44
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Dolomiti

Whats wrong with the GL1000? They are very smooth and will more than handle the Dnepr Sidecar. It would be a good rig and with a little suspension and a few guards underneath. It would be fine on Dirt roads if required.

Strong aftermarket parts for the old wings too.
First, I am flaky.

Actually, I like the look of the GL1000s, but I think they are too big. I was actually hoping to turn one into something that looked similar to an R80gs, but after I stumbled across a pic of one that was dual-sported out, I realized that it looked retarded.

I am not buying anything right away. I have work to do on the sidecar when it gets here and I will take some time to ponder the merits of each (except the HD). I am leaning towards the KLR at the moment because it meets a lot of my requirements.
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Old 01-27-2009, 08:06 PM   #45
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I see inexpensive Sportster rigs all the time (wonder why? often they cost not much more than the Sporty itself) but unless you're a little fella, the Sportster seems cramped for long rides.

I don't see oilheads as being particularly expensive or difficult to maintain. One of the most maintainable modern bikes (if not _the_ most, and I've had my share of wrenching on different beasts. Certainly more so than any UJM.

Valve job, throttle body sync, change the fluids: if you know how to do that, you've got most of maintenance covered, and you won't have to engage in three-dimensional puzzles to get the valve covers off.

That said, even if you go with an R1100R or RS (the cheapest oilheads) you're still looking at a minimum $5k for a bike and the Dauntless bits you'll need to attach it.
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