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Old 02-14-2013, 11:24 PM   #211
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California's laws on lane usage are pretty similar to Texas'. But you are right they could if they wanted too. Assuming they could get though the grid locked traffic to write me lol. There's sections of 820 and 35 that have no shoulder at all right now.

There's some sections of 820 it would be hard to lane-split a freakin bicycle thru there right now LOL!
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Old 02-15-2013, 06:50 AM   #212
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Ya gotta do what you're comfortable with. If you're not comfortable sharing lanes, don't. ...but thinking 'you're crazy' is incorrect. It may be out of YOUR safety zone, but that doesn't mean it isn't within someone else's.

AFA the OP: I try to get into a flow-state and try to stop thinking. Open your mind to the possibilities, watch for twitches of front wheels, watch for faces in mirrors, listen for revving engines, etc. All clues as to what some brain-dead moron in a car is about to do. Stay ahead of em and there are fewer 'emergencies.'

Oh, and keep one eye on your mirror and get the funk outta the way if someone's sharing faster than you are. Been on both sides of that one.

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Old 02-15-2013, 07:12 AM   #213
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When you guys are "splitting", how much faster than the speed of traffic do you go? When I was in CA, I wouldn't go much above 10 or 15 faster than traffic, and would only split if traffic was under 20.
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Old 02-15-2013, 07:31 AM   #214
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I used to lane split when CHIPS was on TV and almost no one seemed to get upset. That's what we need, a modern version of Chips.

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Old 02-15-2013, 08:03 AM   #215
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AFA the OP: I try to get into a flow-state and try to stop thinking. Open your mind to the possibilities, watch for twitches of front wheels, watch for faces in mirrors, listen for revving engines, etc. All clues as to what some brain-dead moron in a car is about to do. Stay ahead of em and there are fewer 'emergencies.'
I found it very relaxing to split lanes when I was doing it regularly - I think it was the effect of letting go of distraction, odd thoughts, and filling my senses with what was happening around me. Call it meditative... but I was better able to respond to the asshole cager when I wasn't caught up in thoughts about work.
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When you guys are "splitting", how much faster than the speed of traffic do you go? When I was in CA, I wouldn't go much above 10 or 15 faster than traffic, and would only split if traffic was under 20.
I'll go 10-15 faster than traffic, right up to 45 or 50, depending on conditions. A lower cap when it's dark or wet. And for me, the worst traffic to split through has always been the slowest. And most frustrating of all splitting through stopped traffic - people can't be counted on to stop their cars 'n trucks in the middle of lanes.
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Old 02-15-2013, 09:56 AM   #216
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I love it. I love seeing the looks on the idot cagers faces as I pull through a stack of them to the light and loft the front when the light changes and am home or in and out of the store and loading the bike when they come pulling in the lot. Had one old dude say to me "That was pretty slick what you did back there, wish I had a bike so I could do that" I chuckled and said yeah it cuts down a lot of time spent in traffic. As for my thought s when doing it? what thoughts? I'm too busy looking for the lines I'm going to be followingthrough traffic and watching for cagers to do something stupid.
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Old 02-15-2013, 12:23 PM   #217
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I love filtering through traffic.

The one thing that I never do is go between the inside kerb and traffic. Going through rush traffic is one of the joys of riding. Better still is when there is a huge traffic jam. During July we have the Royal Norfolk Show, traffic queues for about 15 miles out. It's great just pottering down the outside of all the sweating cagers. I never go more than 20 mph when passing still traffic though, to risky.

One of the things that I like is when the cagers see me and move over slightly to let me through. I do the same route every day and the I come across the same people each day, they normally give a wave after moving over, nice start to the day. The only thing that I think about is whether the pissed of taxi driver/ frustrated business man/ myopic old fart/ dip shit boy racer with stick on bits on his car, has actually seen me.

I don't know whether you folks feel the same but I always feel great after the ride home.
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Old 12-05-2013, 09:06 PM   #218
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I haven't been splitting as much since I moved my office to Berkeley, but today I had a visit in Santa Clara. Sheesh, 880 was jammed from the airport to 237, and it was near-solid the entire way back. Whatever happened to that prime directive, slower traffic shall keep to the right? I found myself passing on the right, like way over in the slow lane, as often as I was splitting between lanes 1 and 2. Just my general mode, to fill the empty space. If I could do one thing to alleviate traffic congestion, it would be to educate car drivers to stay to the right except to pass.

There are more bloated utility wagons out there than ever before... tall, squat, wide, ugly cars that take up more space than anyone really needs, and so often just a solo driver inside the cage. What's with that? It feels like I get more respect (=space to get by) from the buses and semi-tractors than from cars and pickups.
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Old 12-09-2013, 04:45 PM   #219
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When you guys are "splitting", how much faster than the speed of traffic do you go? When I was in CA, I wouldn't go much above 10 or 15 faster than traffic, and would only split if traffic was under 20.
I would kinda time myself with a mental, "one-one-thousand" per car. That should work out to +10 to 15 mph above the prevailing traffic speed. I personally stop lane splitting as I approach the prevailing maximum speed.

So far, so good.
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Old 12-09-2013, 05:42 PM   #220
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usually while entering a split i think 'here we go!' or take a deep breath and think 'get ready'

while splitting i can't say i think of much until after i get past traffic. usually just something like 'glad i'm not driving' or 'so long suckers.' when i see especially aggressive drivers speeding past me only to run into traffic shortly afterward i sometimes think 'they need a bike' as i split past

so far as lane splitting i love it. its hard to explain. some don't. i read posts from riders in other parts of the country where splitting is illegal and they hate traffic and commuting. i love it. whenever someone asks me "how was traffic" i always say 'their wasn't any.' because their wasn't. once a rider posted "even if lane splitting traffic is there." but for me its not. and thats how i see it

it makes all the difference in an urban environment, or even on faster roads when sliding by tightly spaced cars. one little move this way or that and the entire road opens up before you

freedom from lot's of things in that moment
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Old 12-12-2013, 11:44 AM   #221
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Oh, and keep one eye on your mirror and get the funk outta the way if someone's sharing faster than you are. Been on both sides of that one.

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This!

I commute in LA, so I filter every damn day. Almost daily I catch up to someone who is filtering at 1-2 mph faster then the rest of traffic. WTF, why even bother filtering at that point. And of course most of these don't move over to faster traffic. I feel like they are putting me in danger by getting me stuck.

9 out of 10 times it's some hipster on a "cafe racer" ie. new boneville with pipes and a half helmet, or they are on a chromed out Harley.
The 1% are never an issue. Either they are flying, or they'll waive you by without hesitation.
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Old 12-12-2013, 11:54 AM   #222
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I get to find out soon.

Moving to San Diego next month.
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Old 12-12-2013, 07:10 PM   #223
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I get to find out soon.

Moving to San Diego next month.
Its gonna be a culture shock for you. It was for me moving from the DC area.

Some parts of living in SoCal are much nicer, some parts aren't.

There's something to be said for 70 and sunny year round.

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Old 12-12-2013, 07:20 PM   #224
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I get to find out soon.

Moving to San Diego next month.
Let me know when you get here we'll have to go for a ride up to Santa Rosa Mountain Yellow Post campsites.
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Old 12-12-2013, 09:39 PM   #225
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