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Old 02-13-2009, 11:44 AM   #91
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Thought after lane-splitting? "wow, I just got home an HOUR earlier today because I took my bike" I was also able to take the most direct route instead of all the surface streets and detours I usually take when on four wheels.

Anybody that tells me motorcycles should be in bumper to bumper traffic with cars is, in my mind, not a rider.

In 80 miles from the north bay to the valley, not one driver failed to make or leave room for me. Of course I wasn't flying by them, my procedure is to wait until traffic slows down to about 35 maybe 40 and share at about 45-50.
Ditto. Don't know why, but the 405 was alllll fouled up this morning on my commute. Normally it takes me about 15-20 minutes to get to work. Today it took me closer to twenty--because I was able to share lanes. If I hadn't I'd have been on the road for twice as long.

Amusingly, there was one gal in a minivan as I filtered to the front at a light (en route to the freeway) who was pretty bent out of shape that I went past her. She tried to make it harder and I opted to pull in one of my mirrors so that I could get past without knocking her mirror.

She caught up to me at the next light (her in the right lane, me to her left in my lane) and peeled out when the light changed. I accidentally popped up the front end when I got on it a bit harder than normal. I was laughing to myself as I lane shared, thinking how pissed she had to be at sitting in traffic.

Hey minivan bitch! Relax, it doesn't affect you when I share your lane.

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Old 02-13-2009, 09:26 PM   #92
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I've been out of California for less than a year, and while I do miss the courteousness of Bay Area cagers, I don't miss lane-splitting. Here in NYC, I de facto lane-split all the time because everyone drives in my lane.
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Old 02-13-2009, 11:09 PM   #93
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Thought after lane-splitting? "wow, I just got home an HOUR earlier today because I took my bike" I was also able to take the most direct route instead of all the surface streets and detours I usually take when on four wheels.

Anybody that tells me motorcycles should be in bumper to bumper traffic with cars is, in my mind, not a rider.

In 80 miles from the north bay to the valley, not one driver failed to make or leave room for me. Of course I wasn't flying by them, my procedure is to wait until traffic slows down to about 35 maybe 40 and share at about 45-50.
For 50 years I rode SoCal and lane split...My reaction to problems was usually more throttle. Riding my Aprilia Falco the past 3 years, I could clear any problem truck/auto in under 2 seconds.

While those that have not done this on a regular basis might deem it dangerous, I do not.

One day (3 years ago) leaving work, I had just pulled on the Freeway, and found the traffic slowing, I slipped between lanes, until I came upon the cause for the big slow down. There on the ground was a big honda tourinb bike, and the rider was rolling around clutching a broken leg...He was in stop and go traffic when the auto behind hit him...I guarantee I will never be hit from behind.

Since moving to WA last year, I really miss the fun of traveling fast, and free through traffic.

As I read through this tread, it sort of reminds me of an old Zen saying:

"Those that know do not say, and those that say do not know"
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Old 02-14-2009, 02:04 AM   #94
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my biggest fear lane splitting is a car opening its door. happened to my workmate and wrote off his bike.
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Old 02-14-2009, 07:09 AM   #95
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my biggest fear lane splitting is a car opening its door. happened to my workmate and wrote off his bike.
I've seen this happen only once on highways/freeways, and it was when traffic on the Bay Bridge between San Francisco and Oakland was at a standstill, due to some Flugging up ahead. With no forward progress, people were getting out of their cars and trucks to stretch and look out from the side of the Bridge. Never mind that "trains" of motorcyclists were making forward progress. I didn't swap any paint that day, but it was probably the most stressful ride home I've experienced. The loud horns, and my clutch hand, got a workout.
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Old 02-17-2009, 04:32 PM   #96
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Thoughts? Only one, and the same one over and over again...

Incredible! You'd never see those inbred drivers back home moving apart to let a motorcycle through.
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Old 02-18-2009, 08:14 AM   #97
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Thoughts? Only one, and the same one over and over again...

Incredible! You'd never see those inbred drivers back home moving apart to let a motorcycle through.
If it was legal all the bikes would be L/S and motorist would be used to it. Legality is the defining factor.
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Old 02-18-2009, 11:39 AM   #98
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If it was legal all the bikes would be L/S and motorist would be used to it. Legality is the defining factor.
Actually, lane splitting isn't legal where I happen to ride every summer, yet the cars move apart for motorcycles because it is accepted.

The difference is, drivers in Germany, Austria and the neighboring countries I have driven in don't have the piss poor inbred attitude of your average driver on this continent who likes to play law enforcer.

In fact, I even passed five or six German police cars on the autobahn while in near stop 'n go driving a couple of years ago. They were each spread apart by quite a few cars, so it wasn't like the police car I just passed couldn't have radioed ahead to have me pulled over.

Furthermore, lane splitting there is done at low speed when cars are stopped or moving at a few MPH, not the usual 60 MPH lane splitting I see on the TV (California, I think). I'm not even for that...traffic is moving...what do I need to lane split for at 60 MPH?
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Old 02-18-2009, 04:59 PM   #99
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, not the usual 60 MPH lane splitting I see on the TV (California, I think). I'm not even for that...traffic is moving...what do I need to lane split for at 60 MPH?
To get a way from a tailgater but that is probably it for me at 60MPH.
I am in California. I don’t do a lot of lane splitting but I am sure happy I can do it legally when I need too.
Anyway, most of us here have good experiences L/S. I attribute that to L/S widespread practice as a result of being legal. Motorist are used to it and rarely get excited over it.
But it really doesn’t need to be legal. As long as it is generally done, it becomes accepted.
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Old 03-10-2009, 08:47 PM   #100
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I have got to get back to riding with my pants on, as soon as the leg zipper is fixed. It's frigid out there in the morning, and I get to work all spindly-legged, half frozen. I feel semi-naked without them, and it's distracting me from the attention I need to pay to the cagers.
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Old 03-11-2009, 08:00 PM   #101
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Sure glad I rode my bike to work yesterday, I was right in the thick of the freeway-closing homicide on 580.
As approached Regatta exit where leo directed all traffic, a guy in a truck told me he'd been in the soup for an hour and a quarter. Timed from the Richmond side of the bridge to the Regatta exit.

That was a workout.
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Old 03-11-2009, 08:20 PM   #102
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That was a workout.
I find it enervating to grind through dead-stopped or creeping traffic. Drivers lose their sense on lane placement, and I get pinched off and have to wait or back out of dead ends. It's rare, but still a major pain.
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Old 03-11-2009, 09:00 PM   #103
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Thoughts while lane-splitting...

Why doesn't the AMA get off it's sorry A$$ and work to make this legal in every state? They aren't going to get another dime out of me until they start working on this...

Followed by
Either "What the heck is that driver doing"
Or "Hey! Thanks for moving over"

Lane splitting is a great way to get or at least feel like you're getting through traffic.
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Old 04-17-2009, 12:41 PM   #104
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Potholes. I hate potholes. Miserable road hazards that will inevitably take one of us out, and they proliferate due to shoddy construction practices and materials, and inadequate municipal maintenance budgets. I've posted elsewhere how I help the road crews find the bad ones by painting the rim of the hole with hi-viz striping paint. That also helps me avoid the rat bastards when I'm riding home at night, or in the rain. Seems to help other riders and drivers, too.

But I can't too easily get out on the freeway to paint the bad ones there. What to do? Well, I have had good success reporting the death traps to CalTrans, AKA California Department of Highways. They have a handy online form which I've used a few times, and each time, seen the offensive hazard corrected within a week.

http://www.dot.ca.gov/maintform.html

Try it out, if there's a problem on a local State-maintained road near you. The road crews primarily look for problems that affect cars and trucks, and will miss the edge traps and skinny troughs that are of concern to two-wheelers.
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Old 04-18-2009, 12:14 PM   #105
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Being a new rider, my only thought when lane splitting is "please don't open the door" :)
I don't worry too much about that. I figure the 900Lb Goldwing will make short work of a door... And then the a$$hat who opened the door can get a criminal charge against him without the satisfaction of actually hurting me.
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