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Old 03-24-2009, 01:57 PM   #76
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Yes, I would like a couple of one gallon ones too. Hopefully before summer touring season.
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Old 03-24-2009, 06:06 PM   #77
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I've asked Jason (from RotoPAX) for an update on the 1-gallon containers as well as the possibility of doing a special run in Orange. I'll let you know when I here back...
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Old 03-24-2009, 08:22 PM   #78
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I got this email from Jason today.

Me: "Any time estimate on when you will have your 1-gallon gas pack available?"

Jason: "I am hoping very soon. Check back with me on Friday."

So if you've been waiting for the one gallon version, keep your eyes on their website.
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Old 03-25-2009, 02:48 PM   #79
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I got this email from Jason today.

Me: "Any time estimate on when you will have your 1-gallon gas pack available?"

Jason: "I am hoping very soon. Check back with me on Friday."

So if you've been waiting for the one gallon version, keep your eyes on their website.

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Old 03-27-2009, 02:20 PM   #80
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Just put my order in with Jason. He expects to start shipping next week.

Ordered a single one gallon. I will see if I can put it on my 1200GS in place of the passenger pillion without having to buy an alluminum deck to protect the plastic. It might ride well on those rubber inserts.

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Old 03-27-2009, 02:32 PM   #81
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At this time, we are not approved to ship any Fuel Pack to the State of California. Our high quality Fuel Packs will soon be submitted for approval by the C.A.R.B. board for authorization to sale in California. This affects California ONLY and other C.A.R.B. complying States will receive a C.A.R.B. approved Spout. California residents can still order any products that are not designed to Fuel. Thanks for your patience and we hope to be Shipping to customers in California soon!
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Old 03-27-2009, 02:43 PM   #82
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Nevada appears to not be on the CARB list of complying States - I'm thinking, just find another ADVrider in say the Reno area and have the gas cans shipped there, then enjoy a nice weekend in the Sierras on the ride up to get them.

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Old 03-27-2009, 02:44 PM   #83
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Nevada appears to not be on the CARB list of complying States - I'm thinking, just find another ADVrider in say the Reno area and have the gas cans shipped there, then enjoy a nice weekend in the Sierras on the ride up to get them.

I would never!
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Old 03-27-2009, 06:24 PM   #84
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This affects California ONLY and other C.A.R.B. complying States will receive a C.A.R.B. approved Spout.
I wonder...is the spout C.A.R.B.-compliant but just not yet C.A.R.B.-listed/approved (pending a testing or application process)? I'm guessing (would love to know for sure) that C.A.R.B. requirements involve the cap and spout not releasing gasoline fumes. That's totally fine by me. If that were the case in fact, I'd rather buy a C.A.R.B.-compliant one. Anyone know what the regulation actually requires, or how a C.A.R.B.-compliant spout might differ from one that is not?

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Old 03-27-2009, 06:28 PM   #85
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I wonder...is the spout C.A.R.B.-compliant but just not yet C.A.R.B.-listed/approved (pending a testing or application process)? I'm guessing (would love to know for sure) that C.A.R.B. requirements involve the cap and spout not releasing gasoline fumes. That's totally fine by me. If that were the case in fact, I'd rather buy a C.A.R.B.-compliant one. Anyone know what the regulation actually requires, or how a C.A.R.B.-compliant spout might differ from one that is not?

Rob in Seattle

I believe the issue with the old kolpin's was that the non-carb spout could be stored inside the container, while the carb compliant ones could only be mounted externally -- which kind of f's up the thing for moto/atv use.


I need to find out for sure what kind of spout will appear if I order the pak for delivery here.
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Old 03-27-2009, 08:48 PM   #86
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I believe the issue with the old kolpin's was that the non-carb spout could be stored inside the container, while the carb compliant ones could only be mounted externally -- which kind of f's up the thing for moto/atv use.
Just did some googling, here's a partial list, from here.

All new fuel cans and spouts manufactured, sold, or supplied for use in California after January 2001 must meet with specific performance standards. These standards include, but are not limited to, the features listed below:

- Portable cans must be manufactured with a single opening which will function for both filling and pouring. The decreased number
of openings will reduce spillage and escaping vapor.
- New cans must have a self-venting spout since the secondary vent opening has been eliminated.
- Each can must employ an automatic shut-off spout capable of stopping fuel flow before overflow can occur.
- The spout must close automatically after fuel dispensing, seal itself, and remain sealed against vapor emissions while not in use.
- The permeation rate of fuel through the elastomeric walls of portable fuel cans cannot exceed a rate of .4 grams per gallon per day.
- New cans must be warrantied against defects for at least one year.
- Each fuel container or spout must display either a manufacture date or a representative code for identification
and regulation compliance.
- Packaging text must include additional labels of, “spill proof system” or “spill proof spout.”


Still don't see anything that makes me not want to have a CARB-compliant can....

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Old 03-27-2009, 09:44 PM   #87
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Jason mentioned the spout issue when we spoke. The new spout will be self venting. The 1 gal tank I am getting is not self venting which means it will take about 30 secs I believe to empty into my tank and will gurgle. They did some tests. They wiil be getting new spouts in a few weeks.

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Old 03-28-2009, 08:11 AM   #88
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30 seconds. I don't have that kind of time, I'm on an adventure. As for the gurgling I usually wear ear plugs so it might be OK. I'll wait for the reviews to come in....


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Jason mentioned the spout issue when we spoke. The new spout will be self venting. The 1 gal tank I am getting is not self venting which means it will take about 30 secs I believe to empty into my tank and will gurgle. They did some tests. They wiil be getting new spouts in a few weeks.

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Old 03-28-2009, 09:38 AM   #89
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Jason mentioned the spout issue when we spoke. The new spout will be self venting. The 1 gal tank I am getting is not self venting which means it will take about 30 secs I believe to empty into my tank and will gurgle. They did some tests. They wiil be getting new spouts in a few weeks.

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So can the compliant spouts be stored inside the can when not in use?
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Old 03-28-2009, 10:30 AM   #90
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let me know when I can order one !

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