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Old 02-13-2004, 11:25 AM   #1
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LC4 exhaust info

There have been a number of conversations about KTM LC4 exhaust systems and slip-ons, so I did a little research (very little) and came up with a few lesser known brands, at least in the US, to consider besides the factory KTM stuff, the Supertrapp IDS2, Big Gun and the on again off again Pro Circuit T-4.
So far here is a short list of some of the other brands:
Sebring, BSM by ABP, Leovince X-3, SP, Doma, Akrapovic. I'm sure there are others out there, but I haven't found them... yet.

The first link is the main page for Schnider Cycles in Germany, the second for their english power parts pull down menus. The third is for ABP and is in german.

http://www.schneidercycles.de/

http://www.ktmax.de/indexa.htm

http://www.abp-racing.de/

My thoughts on this whole pipe thing is that there are lots of styles, materials, price ranges etc, but I doubt any of them, within a given sound db range, offer any dramatic improvement over one another. So go with exclusivity, features, finish, quality, performance, sound, price... what ever your priorities are.

I personally went with a Supertrapp IDS2 because of the quality, price, USFS spark arrestor, the ability to fit it ( with a minor modification) to my '03 Adventure and the wide range of tunability, and as I am a friend of a Parts Unlimited dealer... easy to get.

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Old 02-13-2004, 12:42 PM   #2
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Old 02-13-2004, 12:49 PM   #3
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Interesting. The can looks a bit basic but I like the tappered megaphone leading up to it. It appears they start at $350 for a pipe and muffler, although in the "testimonials" I didn't see any reference to KTMs. I sent Bob Murray, the owner a e-mail; maybe we'll hear back soon. So, possibly, there is another one:

http://www.thunder-alley.net/

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Old 02-15-2004, 04:08 AM   #4
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I went with the G-Force Titanium exhaust. Check out:

http://www.solidcorporation.com

John is the US distributor and importer of G-force. Gave my
'03 640 Adventure a big throaty sound, not too noisy but
woke up that motor and made it sound as it should.
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Old 02-15-2004, 06:05 AM   #5
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I went with an Aussie company because I'm aussie. Excellent fit with no modifications, lighter and better sound (94-95dB). Very Happy.

Check 'em out at:

http://www.staintune.com.au/exhausts/ktm/index.htm

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Old 02-15-2004, 07:33 AM   #6
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imho, Supertrapp has had the edge for just about anything for at least the last thirty some years.
consider all the other options who's been around the longest with the best prices and tunability out of any other pipe. Supertrapp.
the fact that their also USFS Approved spark arrestors is only a benefit to Enduro/adventure bikes doesn't mean their just for that.
Had one on my Z1 years ago and loved it then as now, have one on my Lc4 today. next bike I get will also get a Trapp.
can't be beat by a $500-1000 pipes for around $200/250 bucks. .
again jmho.
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Old 02-15-2004, 12:49 PM   #7
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Old 02-15-2004, 12:54 PM   #8
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Old 02-15-2004, 03:49 PM   #9
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Ah! This is starting to look like a pretty good list of LC4 exhausts!

Mack, your system is VERY nice, but what brand is it? I'm afraid I can't read the emblems.

Gaz, thanks very much. Completely forgot about Staintune, had one on my Buell. For others that forgot and are interested, here is the link to the US importer:
http://www.cbtimports.com/

DJMARLEY, I see that you have to call for information. Is the G-force something they have to make up, or do they have a standard part number for the LC4? Good looking mufflers!

Thanks everyone for the input, keep 'em coming

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Old 02-15-2004, 04:52 PM   #10
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Creeper, sadly it's not mine, as there are no motards in my garage. Love those pipes though, I had an interest in getting a set for my ADV, but it was hard to get info, (not that I tried that hard) and with my Touratech racks I was concerned over fitment issues, not to mention weight. If it works anything like the 1 into 2 systems on the Duke II and Rallye, it should sound and perform as well as it looks. Cheers, Mack
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Old 02-15-2004, 05:33 PM   #11
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Creeper, sadly it's not mine, as there are no motards in my garage. Love those pipes though, I had an interest in getting a set for my ADV, but it was hard to get info, (not that I tried that hard) and with my Touratech racks I was concerned over fitment issues, not to mention weight. If it works anything like the 1 into 2 systems on the Duke II and Rallye, it should sound and perform as well as it looks. Cheers, Mack
Thanks Mack,
The Sebring LC4 slip-on mufflers are sold thru both ABP & Schneider Cycles in Gemany (the links are above, on my first post).
I tried to locate a vendor in the US, but all I found was what appears to be a auto exhaust distributor in Hamilton, Ontario Canada. They have no web address that I can see so anyone interested will have to call, write or e-mail for information. The Sebring site itself is very interesting!

So, this is what we have so far in no paticular order:

Factory KTM
Supertrapp
Sebring
BSM by ABP
Leovince X-3
Staintune
SP
Doma
Thunder Alley
Akrapovic
G-Force
Big Gun
Pro Circuit (maybe)

Thanks everyone for your input. I think present and future LC4 owners will benefit from having a fairly current list of what is available to them.

In our next episode, we will see what folks are using as a replacement carb for LC4s. From what I've seen and from personal experience, the most recent street legal carb, the Mikuni BST 40, works fine on the street and OK to poor on dirt and is not the most responsive mixer in the world.
I recently obtained a Mikuni TM (HSR) 42-6 that I will be screwing around with, when I have more hard data/photos, I will post it.

Thanks again to everyone!
Anyone reading this, if you have a exhaust not already on the above list, don't hesitate to add your information.

Thanks!
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Old 02-15-2004, 06:25 PM   #12
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Creeper, sadly it's not mine, as there are no motards in my garage. Love those pipes though, I had an interest in getting a set for my ADV, but it was hard to get info, (not that I tried that hard) and with my Touratech racks I was concerned over fitment issues, not to mention weight. If it works anything like the 1 into 2 systems on the Duke II and Rallye, it should sound and perform as well as it looks. Cheers, Mack
As a followup to Mack's teaser...

(Sebring Austrian market pricing) I think the really sexy one in Mack's pictures is the 1205 Euro unit. It's hell having good taste, isn't it!

KTM Model 950 Adventure / Adventure S from 03 Duke II from 99 EXC 250/400/450/520/525 from 02 LC4 620/625/640 LC4 620/625/640/660 LC4 620/640 SMC 660 / LC4 625 SX 400/450/520/525 from 02 SX 400/520/525 from 02 SX 450 from 02 MotorizingTyp 4T-SC,

HTR3107502 - complete system (manifold, Y-tube, silencer), HUNTER, Racing, Titan
KTM - SMC 660 / LC4 625 - Typ 4T-SC,
silencer with damping insert to be screwed out for 92 and 98 dB(A)
€ 560 // EURO
excl. Taxes/ex Works


HTR7502 - slip on, HUNTER, Racing, Titan
KTM - SMC 660 / LC4 625 - Typ 4T-SC,
silencer with damping insert to be screwed out for 92 and 98 dB(A)
€ 331,7 // EURO
excl. Taxes/ex Works


HTT3107502 - complete system (manifold, Y-tube, silencer), HUNTER, EC approved, Titan
KTM - SMC 660 / LC4 625 - Typ 4T-SC,
€ 560 // EURO
excl. Taxes/ex Works


HTT3307505LR - complete system (2 manifold tubes, 2 connecting tubes with konical tubes, 2 silencers), HUNTER, EC approved, Titan
KTM - SMC 660 / LC4 625 - Typ 4T-SC,
€ 1205 // EURO
excl. Taxes/ex Works



HTT7502 - slip on, HUNTER, EC approved, Titan
KTM - SMC 660 / LC4 625 - Typ 4T-SC,
€ 331,7 // EURO
excl. Taxes/ex Works
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Old 02-15-2004, 09:29 PM   #13
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Funny how everyone has info on the Sebring systems... but no one actually has one on their bike. It's too bad, as they look like a well made piece of kit.

Thanks for the details rapiti

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Old 02-16-2004, 05:00 AM   #14
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Check out the DAM Silencer.
Best Sound I have ever heared.
Not to loud, and loads of power from below 4000 U/min

http://www.ktm-sommer.de/Seiten_04/F_english_04.html
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Old 02-16-2004, 09:59 AM   #15
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I have the same problem...

I'm looking for a COOL exhaust for my LC4, but either things are unavailable, or things look like crap, or things are WAY too expensive..

Anyway:

http://www.abp-racing.de/sebringII.htm

That's the one you want, but it doesn't come cheap!
Full titanium system, which I wouldn't recommend for off road tbh.

It gets better!:

http://www.sebring.biz/produkte/bikes_hunter.html

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