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Old 11-02-2011, 08:11 AM   #1366
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I would love to find some beetle bags for my 01, seems like it's close to impossible!




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I had a local shop match some paint to respray the beetle bags I got this summer...long story short...they did it (old timer w/years of matching exp), it looks good, but it was damn expensive...I was lucky, I was able to paint both bags w/ a pint at a cost of $150.00....a quart would have been almost $300. They used my rear seat cowl for the match...it has never been on the bike, so it was basically matching to a brand new paint...there is some slight difference on the bike paint, but you'd have to know that to notice it...but now you do... :)

Edit...the $150 was just for the paint...not the actual painting... Doh!
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Old 11-03-2011, 04:40 AM   #1367
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I would love to find some beetle bags for my 01, seems like it's close to impossible!
Yeah, it took me a long time to find them and then they weren't in great shape...pretty beat up, that's why I had them sprayed...worth the wait...I just didn't like any of the other 5th gen luggage options. They're not huge nor do they come off easily or store a full size helmet, but with a tank bag and tail bag you can carry just about everything and your ass end doesn't stick out like a pick-up truck... :) They came out pretty good.

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Old 11-03-2011, 11:09 AM   #1368
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Yeah, it took me a long time to find them and then they weren't in great shape...pretty beat up, that's why I had them sprayed...worth the wait...I just didn't like any of the other 5th gen luggage options. They're not huge nor do they come off easily or store a full size helmet, but with a tank bag and tail bag you can carry just about everything and your ass end doesn't stick out like a pick-up truck... :) They came out pretty good.
I have to agree that the Beetle bags are the best looking option with the least ASS.

I went with some Hepco Becker 30 liters with quick off SW Motech racks.

The 6th gen factory option would be great but............we don't have it!
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Old 11-15-2011, 11:50 AM   #1369
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Old 11-15-2011, 06:57 PM   #1370
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How long do the original R/Rs typically last?
My 1998 5th Gen only has 12K miles, and the battery recently died. I've ordered the Rick's electric upgraded R/R and the VFRness from wiremybike.com -- and if the old regulator checks bad, it should be replaceable under the extended warranty passed on from the previous owner.

Wondering if the original R/R is likely to check good after so few miles, meaning the battery failure isn't attributable to the R/R, in which case none of the work will be covered under warranty.
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Old 11-16-2011, 10:11 AM   #1371
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I am over 40K on my 99. Still on my 2nd battery and original RR. One of these days I will buy a spare RR prior to a tour. The RR is kind of like a doooo on a KLR.
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Old 11-17-2011, 05:19 PM   #1372
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How long do the original R/Rs typically last?
My 1998 5th Gen only has 12K miles, and the battery recently died. I've ordered the Rick's electric upgraded R/R and the VFRness from wiremybike.com -- and if the old regulator checks bad, it should be replaceable under the extended warranty passed on from the previous owner.

Wondering if the original R/R is likely to check good after so few miles, meaning the battery failure isn't attributable to the R/R, in which case none of the work will be covered under warranty.
W/O doing some initial, relatively simple checks with a multimeter, you could be just wasting money and time.
How old was the battery?
There is no typical when it comes to r/rs, but 12k would be on the early side of failure. The old style r/r on my 96 lasted 80k. The first new style replacement I installed only lasted 10k, but the second is still functioning fine with over 70k on it. A Rick's r/r that I installed this year died w/in 6k, but that failure was due to the connections frying.
What kind of extended warranty covers a 14 yr old m/c and why would you order a r/r from Rick's if the warranty will replace the original if it's bad?
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Old 11-17-2011, 06:32 PM   #1373
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W/O doing some initial, relatively simple checks with a multimeter, you could be just wasting money and time.
How old was the battery?
There is no typical when it comes to r/rs, but 12k would be on the early side of failure. The old style r/r on my 96 lasted 80k. The first new style replacement I installed only lasted 10k, but the second is still functioning fine with over 70k on it. A Rick's r/r that I installed this year died w/in 6k, but that failure was due to the connections frying.
What kind of extended warranty covers a 14 yr old m/c and why would you order a r/r from Rick's if the warranty will replace the original if it's bad?
No telling how old the battery was; previous owner left no record, nor are there any "punchouts" indicating purchase date.
Good to know your R/Rs lasted so long, but it's not clear to me what causes the failures -- mileage, heat, cycles, drain, etc, which is sorta why I asked.
Extended warranty was also purchased by PO, and was transferrable. I'm sure it's 3rd party and it wasn't cheap. "Insurance" is a more appropriate term IMO -- and you can insure anything regardless of its age.
Finally, I assume the R/R is a "pay me now or pay me later" issue and that the Rick's Electric unit is better than OEM -- assumptions all based on this forum. Even my dealer said that if the R/R checks bad, warranty will replace it with OEM but it'll likely fail again; he recommended aftermarket (part at my expense, labor covered under warranty). Seemed experienced with the issue, citing battery, R/R, & stator testing in that order.

Anyway, seems like an easy parts swap (exception: stator), even for a knuckledragger like me. Swapping the battery in the VFR was by far the easiest of all my bikes!
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Old 11-17-2011, 07:42 PM   #1374
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No telling how old the battery was; previous owner left no record, nor are there any "punchouts" indicating purchase date.

Good to know your R/Rs lasted so long, but it's not clear to me what causes the failures -- mileage, heat, cycles, drain, etc, which is sorta why I asked.
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Anyway, seems like an easy parts swap (exception: stator), even for a knuckledragger like me. Swapping the battery in the VFR was by far the easiest of all my bikes!
Age alone can do the battery in.
Not so much the r/r directly, but corrosion build up on the connectors can take the r/r very quickly and age can contribute to that failure mode.
Changing the stator on the VFR is a pretty easy job, but that's not likely to be the problem on a bike with so little mileage. Mine failed after 160,000 miles.

Hope it all gets sorted out.
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Old 11-17-2011, 10:16 PM   #1375
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Mine failed after 160,000 miles.
I'd say you got your money's worth!
Curious, though (and maybe a better question for The Garage), but what actually fails on a stator? Isn't it simply wires on a coil with no moving parts? It's "static", hence the name "stator", right? Does it get hot under electical load, melt the insulation, then short?
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Old 11-18-2011, 08:24 AM   #1376
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I'd say you got your money's worth!
Curious, though (and maybe a better question for The Garage), but what actually fails on a stator? Isn't it simply wires on a coil with no moving parts? It's "static", hence the name "stator", right? Does it get hot under electical load, melt the insulation, then short?
I'm not an electrical guru, but I think you've nailed it. The insulation around the windings can break down. When I pulled the old one, there was some darkening around two of the coils and the AC output across two of the three wire pairings was bad. Talking with Rick at Rick's Electrics, he said that stators often will looked charred and you can smell the burnt insulation in many cases when you pull the cover off of them.
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Old 11-18-2011, 10:27 AM   #1377
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I'm not an electrical guru, but I think you've nailed it. The insulation around the windings can break down. When I pulled the old one, there was some darkening around two of the coils and the AC output across two of the three wire pairings was bad. Talking with Rick at Rick's Electrics, he said that stators often will looked charred and you can smell the burnt insulation in many cases when you pull the cover off of them.
Ricks is the place to get a new stator and RR. Very good service!
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Old 11-18-2011, 10:31 AM   #1378
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Old 11-18-2011, 10:05 PM   #1379
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Got the drop-shipped R/R today. Made in Taiwan, but hey, what isn't? Will wait until I receive the harness before I start disassembling and testing.
But I wonder....if my OEM parts check good, should I replace the R/R and harness anyway under the premise that the replacements are not prone to the same failure mode?
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Old 11-19-2011, 01:46 PM   #1380
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should I replace the R/R and harness anyway under the premise that the replacements are not prone to the same failure mode?

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