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Old 11-13-2014, 07:21 PM   #1
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2015 Beta 300 Cross-Trainer



From - http://www.betausa.com/node/1984

Key Features:

-All-New Deltabox frame designed to be more compact
-Super Smooth, 300 cc 2 stroke engine with adjustable powervalve
-Special "torque" exhaust system
-Electric start
-Cooling fan
-Electronic oil injection (no need to pre-mix)
-35.8" seat height
-10% smaller frame and overall size (compared to a standard Enduro model)
-Light, 218 lb. dry weight

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From - http://www.cyclenews.com/384/26242/R...-Xtrainer.aspx

"Beta has pretty much introduced a new class of motorcycle with its all-new Xtrainer, a compact, lightweight and easy-to-ride all-around off-road bike designed for the entry-level, casual and even expert rider. Beta says, “It is the perfect bike for riders who wish to play ride without the intimidation of a full-size enduro machine or for the expert rider looking to enhance their technical skills.

“Our engineers saw the need to build a bike that defines fun, a motorcycle that is perfect for newcomers becoming involved with the wonderful world of enduro riding. The Xtrainer offers excellent performance while at the same time is easy to ride.

”The Beta Xtrainer features a smaller deltabox frame, which provides for a lower seat height and a lower center of gravity. It has a 43mm fork and single-shock rear suspension.

"We have been working on the Xtrainer for a few years; the idea was not to copy the competition but rather develop a bike for a market that we felt was being missed, the entry-level enduro or off-road bike. After riding the Xtrainer I realized how cool it is to ride a motorcycle off-road that has such usable and easy to manage power can be. The bike is just plain fun!" said Tim Pilg, Beta USA Marketing Manager.

"The bike’s powerplant is derived from Beta’s popular 300 RR two-stroke that is said to produce a linear and progressive power, and it has electric starting. It has an electronically controlled oil injection system, which eliminates the need of having to mix fuel and oil. In other words, no premixing!

"MSRP is $6999 and the bike is available in March, 2015."

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From - http://www.enduro360.com/2014/11/08/...pecifications/

"Beta has revolutionized the enduro market with a bike that is compact, light, and easy to ride.

Xtrainer (aka, Cross Trainer) is the only true “All-Around, Entry Level” enduro bike in the market. It is the perfect bike for riders who wish to play ride without the intimidation of a full size enduro machine or for the expert rider looking to enhance their technical skills.

Our engineers saw the need to build a bike that defines fun, a motorcycle that is perfect for newcomers becoming involved with the wonderful world of enduro riding. The Xtrainer offers excellent performance while at the same time is easy to ride."

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More links -

http://www.enduro21.com/index.php/co...a-300-xtrainer

http://www.betausa.com/node/1984

http://www.innovationoffroad.com/201...cross-trainer/

https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/201...er-first-look/

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Old 11-13-2014, 07:31 PM   #2
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Looks like a great play bike contender. Replacement for all of those older KDX 200/220 Kawasaki's?
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Old 11-13-2014, 07:46 PM   #3
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SPECIFICATIONS:

Engine Type: Beta-Built single cylinder, 2-stroke,liquid cooled, with BPV power valve system and electric start
Bore: 72 mm
Stroke: 72mm
Displacement: 293.1 cc
Compression Ratio: 11.3:1
Exhaust Valve Beta Progressive Valve (BPV)
Ignition: AC CDI Kokusan.
Spark Plug:NGK GR7CI8
Lubrication: Electronic Oil Injection (650cc = ~3 gas tanks)
Carburetor: Keihin: PWK36mm
Clutch: Wet multi-disc
Transmission: 6-speed
Final Drive: O-ring chain
Chassis Frame: Molybdenum steel/Parameter-Style w/quick air filter access.
Wheelbase: 57.8
Seat Height: 35.8
Ground Clearance: 12.6
Footrest Height: 15.4
Dry Weight: 218lbs.
Fuel Tank Capacity: 2.25 US gallons
Front Suspension: 43mm Inverted with rebound, & spring preload adjustment
Rear Suspension: Steel body shock with adjustable rebound and compression
Front Wheel Travel: 10.6
Rear Wheel Travel: 10.6
Front Brake: 260mm floating rotor
Rear Brake: 240mm rotor
Front/Rear Rim: 21 (Front) 18 (Rear)
Front/Rear Tire: Soft Enduro Competition
Warranty: 6 month Limited Warranty
MSRP: $6999.00
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Old 11-13-2014, 11:22 PM   #4
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The FreeRide is about $1500 more...BUT initial reports are that it won't be readily available, very limited. Hopefully that'll just be a first model year thing (at least for the US, since the FR has been abroad for two years now)...cause I'm tired of waiting for a Beta dealership to open up in town.
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Old 11-14-2014, 11:50 AM   #5
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extremely considering this as a birthday present for my girlfriend. its between this and the ktm 200xcw. anybody know for sure if this can be tuned up to be close to the non-friendly beta 300? i dont see why not, but i want to know for sure before i make a decision.
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Old 11-14-2014, 12:03 PM   #6
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The FreeRide is about $1500 more...BUT initial reports are that it won't be readily available, very limited. Hopefully that'll just be a first model year thing (at least for the US, since the FR has been abroad for two years now)...cause I'm tired of waiting for a Beta dealership to open up in town.
thats what i was thinking direct competition for the freeride.
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Old 11-14-2014, 12:19 PM   #7
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extremely considering this as a birthday present for my girlfriend. its between this and the ktm 200xcw. anybody know for sure if this can be tuned up to be close to the non-friendly beta 300? i dont see why not, but i want to know for sure before i make a decision.
Without an Xtrainer parts diagram, it's hard to say if it can be converted to 300RR spec. The CrossT does have a PV. My guess, you may a new CDI & expansion chamber, maybe a cylinder. RR Parts Diagrams: http://www.betausa.com/sites/default...202-stroke.pdf

Don't know how a KTM 200XCW compares power wise to a 300cc Xtrainer. Too bad we can't see torque curves for both. YMMV


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Old 11-14-2014, 05:52 PM   #8
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Dropping In On: US Beta Importer Tim Pilg

from Dirt Rider: http://www.dirtrider.com/features/dr...rter-tim-pilg/

"The release of the new Beta Cross-trainer has sparked some interest in the off-road world, which is in short supply of bikes geared toward the entry-level rider. However, according to US Beta importer Tim Pilg, the new Beta Cross-trainer is also a great bike for those riders interesting in the more extreme aspects of off-roading.

"We spoke to Pilg about the new bike.

Q: Let’s talk about the new Beta Cross-trainer. Why should the off-road guys be excited about Beta’s new Cross-trainer.

A: The Cross-trainer was basically a project we started three or four years ago, and the idea was to create an entry-level enduro bike. We did this for a couple of reasons. Let’s say a guy is out there who is in the market for a bike and maybe he’s not a racer but he’s a hardcore weekend rider, he just doesn’t compete. So he’s checking out bikes and the big bikes are just too intimidating. So ultimately we wanted a design a bike that was less intimidating but one that still had the performance. So we started with several different configurations. At first we took a trials bike chassis and added long-travel suspension, but that didn’t meet our goals. So then we tried putting a trials bike engine in a full-size enduro chassis however the fun factor was just not what we wanted. So ultimately, we started with the engine from our 300 RR, took away the “hit” and created a smooth power delivery that is easy to ride, we created a special exhaust system and put this new engine configuration in a smaller chassis. It still has a power valve but the settings are completely different. It doesn’t have a hit but it pulls through the entire range. The bike is very nimble and it weighs about the same as a 125 off-road bike does. It feels like a 125 but it has the power of a 300. The price came in under $7000.00 and we’re very excited about it. We’re going into production in February, so the bikes will be available here in March.

Q: So when you say a smaller frame, explain that to us.

A: Yeah, the bike is a little better than an inch shorter than a standard RR, and about an inch-and-a-half lower than the RR. Compared to an average enduro bike, it’s about two-and-a-half to three inches lower. The Betas are on the average an inch to an inch-and-a-half lower than the competitors. So the Cross-trainer is another inch lower than that.

Q: So it’s a smaller overall chassis, but it still uses the full size wheels?

A: Yes, it still have full size wheels. The bike looks a little smaller as well, so a vertically-challenged rider will feel right at home on the bike.

"Some people are comparing it to the KTM Free Rider, but that wasn’t our target. It would be a great bike as a second bike for an extreme guy, because it rides very well on the extreme stuff, but the ultimate market is the entry-level enduro."

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Old 11-14-2014, 08:51 PM   #9
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Without an Xtrainer parts diagram, it's hard to say if it can be converted to 300RR spec. The CrossT does have a PV. My guess, you may a new CDI & expansion chamber, maybe a cylinder. RR Parts Diagrams: http://www.betausa.com/sites/default...202-stroke.pdf

Don't know how a KTM 200XCW compares power wise to a 300cc Xtrainer. Too bad we can't see torque curves for both. YMMV


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Old 11-15-2014, 09:36 AM   #10
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Bad ass!!!

Too bad it won't be CARB approved for a green sticker.
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Old 11-15-2014, 09:40 AM   #11
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Bad ass!!!

Too bad it won't be CARB approved for a green sticker.

Looks like the perfect bike for a big guy at King of the Moto's.
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Old 11-18-2014, 06:22 PM   #12
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Old 11-19-2014, 08:40 AM   #13
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2015 Beta CrossTrainer 300 brochure

No new information - http://www.betamotor.com/system/atta...1/Xtrainer.pdf

It'll be interesting to see if it shows up on the Beta BYOB site - http://www.betausa.com/node/744
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