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Old 02-11-2009, 06:46 AM   #76
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- Lastly, the DRZ I can put the balls of my feet down, the KLX I believe I can almost flat foot. The WRR!! I almost dropped the thing at the bike show (yeah I was "that guy") getting off of it, that thing is tall! And I'm 5'10".

- I'm surprised I haven't heard the "Get an old DR350 or DRZ and ride it until you know what you're doing then spend some money on a better bike". I heard one mention of an older DRZ as a possibility.

Thanks for all the input. Please keep it coming!
A note on the WRR's height. It is the only bike out of all of these that actually comes with an adjustable rear suspension height. They are turned up out of the crate and that's why it seemed so tall on the showroom floor. A simple screw on the bottom of the shock will lower it by more than an inch, which really makes a difference. If that still isn't enough, you can drop the spring pre-load (which comes set at the half-way point) to lower the rear even more. Again . . . if that isn't enough, there is a Yamalink available that will drop it yet another inch. Don't let the tall seat height in the showroom floor turn you off.

Also, I have spent time on a DR350 and while the motor is excellent and the suspension is decent for trail riding, that thing has to be one of the most uncomfortable bikes I've ever ridden. Seriously. I was sore in less than an hour and I had to ride that contraption for half a day. I can ride the WRR ALL DAY without even a hint of fatigue or discomfort.
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Old 02-11-2009, 06:49 AM   #77
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Albie . . . have you had a chance to ride a WRR yet? I seem to recall that most (if not all) of the plethora of bikes in your stable are of the *ahem* larger bore variety. I just find it kind of surprising that you are somewhat defending this wimpy little 250
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Old 02-11-2009, 07:01 AM   #78
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LOL, yup kinda funny I guess. Just that I'm not so ignorant to write off the little thumpers. Actually. just got rid of my big WR and have been contemplating getting the WRR. May hold off on that as I'm in the process of prepping the SXV for the track. If I start doing a lot track days my dirt riding is gonna slow down a bit.
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Old 02-11-2009, 07:20 AM   #79
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25lbs in the dirt is HUGE. Yup, you don't get it.
Yes but the 50 + hp on my Husky is Huger,

Its not like I have never ridden little underpowered thumpers - my favorite was the XR200 - would only do 55 MPH but was a tractor off road. I also have a Super Sherpa.

It is the deep sand, long steep uphills and especially the paved roads with headwinds and steep inclines where you can't have too much power (if you know how to use it).
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Old 02-11-2009, 07:22 AM   #80
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Klx?

Any more reflection on the KLX?

- "tbirdsp", you mentioned you went from a KTM to a KLX, that seems like an unlikely move, can you tell me more about how you feel about the KLX? Is it underpowered at times?

It sounds like a very manageable bike to me...but maybe that's the "fear of a big bike" syndrome I have.

Also: Thanks for th einfo on the WR height, if I can take it down an inch or even 2 I'll be perfect for that bike.

The price thought: Ouch! Maybe I can find someone who's NEEDS to sell theirs?
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Old 02-11-2009, 07:35 AM   #81
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You can still find deals on leftover '08's if you hurry. Andrew's Cycles in Salem Ohio had quite a few left over, but I'm not sure how many they have left. That's where quite a few of us new owners bought them for cheap. Like I said earlier, I got mine for under $4,500 out the door (no tax included).

I've got some seat time one the KLX. It's a decent little bike, but with camping gear is hard pressed to get it over 60 mph on the highway . . . and it takes a while to get there. 17.5hp just isn't much . . . and it shows. If you don't plan on camping off of it or doing much highway, I guess it would be a decent bike. The WRR is better in every way (suspension, handling, power, comfort, etc, etc), but I don't want to rag on the little KLX. It's a decent bike for what it is.
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Old 02-11-2009, 07:41 AM   #82
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Sounds like the WR250R is the bike for me.
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Old 02-11-2009, 07:48 AM   #83
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I own the DRZ and love it. It is slightly heavy off road, but I'm not racing it. I'll admit I'm interested in the WR. There are a few reasons I didn't run right and buy one are.

1. Tank size sucks. They claim there is one in production, and I've seen one picture.
2. Who knows how long the bike will around. Sales are obviously down b/c they're being blown out at dealers and ebay. The lowest I saw was $4199.
3. After market parts. I follow the WR thread and now website, and find people wrestling with luggage.
4. There is a ton of DRZ information online. If you're doing your own maintenance and you're not that familiar with motoscoots that reference comes in handy.

While the DRZ is dated by some, there are after market parts in every town. I have never been skunked on a ride b/c somebody was out of a part. I do like where the WR is going, but for the same weight, I'll pick the DRZ.

Don't get me started on the TE310, now there is a possible replacement.
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Old 02-11-2009, 07:59 AM   #84
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2. Who knows how long the bike will around. Sales are obviously down b/c they're being blown out at dealers and ebay. The lowest I saw was $4199.
We'll have to wait and see on the WRR sales situation. Yamaha sent their entire allotment to dealers fairly early last year, and many dealers were sold out by July. The bikes that are being discounted now are not coming from the warehouse, they're coming from dealers that couldn't sell them. That might indicate that the bike's popularlity is regional, like the XR650R. Or more likely it might indicate that the recession of 2009 is a bad time to have leftover motorcycles on your showroom floor.
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Old 02-11-2009, 08:45 AM   #85
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Tell me more about the TE310...can I realistically start to consider a Husky and not be concerned with maintenance and technical issues beyond my ability? I keep hearing "Stay Japanese for your first off road bike".
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Old 02-11-2009, 08:49 AM   #86
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Sometimes it isn't all about the hp numbers on the spec sheet.

Yeah, I know. BigDogMark is about the coolest dude ever and admits to being an older rider looking for something more managable and I can appreciate that, but he'd be 2 counties back with me on my extra 25 pound TE610.

As for the OP of this thread, money wasn't mentioned at the start. you might want to look at a KLR250, awesome little bike. It's kick only,but a nice little trail bike. Maybe even a DR200 would be worth a look.
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Old 02-11-2009, 08:51 AM   #87
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Tell me more about the TE310...can I realistically start to consider a Husky and not be concerned with maintenance and technical issues beyond my ability? I keep hearing "Stay Japanese for your first off road bike".
I'd let the 310 hype simmer a little, it's seems like an awful lot of money to me. I really think a TE250 would be a better choice.
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Yes but the 50 + hp on my Husky is Huger,
On tight single track? I'll take less weight over more power any day. And I'm no lightweight.

I have a DRZ E and had an S, and Annie has an 04 WR250.

The WR is much better on the trail, even with less power.
But that can be fixed.



Almost any ergonomic issue with any bike can be fixed fairly inexpensively, so don't listen to those people who bitch about that stuff.

I'm 6'4" 260-ish so ANY bike I ride needs attention in that area.

That being said, if I had to pare it down to one bike and I could get one with either an OD 5th or a 6 speed, it would be the DRZ.
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On tight single track? I'll take less weight over more power any day. And I'm no lightweight.

I have a DRZ E and had an S, and Annie has an 04 WR250.

The WR is much better on the trail, even with less power.
But that can be fixed.



Almost any ergonomic issue with any bike can be fixed fairly inexpensively, so don't listen to those people who bitch about that stuff.

I'm 6'4" 260-ish so ANY bike I ride needs attention in that area.

That being said, if I had to pare it down to one bike and I could get one with either an OD 5th or a 6 speed, it would be the DRZ.

I thought we were talking about the new WR250R, not the off road version WR250? I think the 2008 WR250R is essentially the same weight as a modified DRZ.

Crap, I forgot the 6th gear. I hate the fact the DRZ doesn't have a 6th gear too. So a little extra weight and no 6th gear are my knocks against it.
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Sounds like the WR250R is the bike for me.
Sounds like you envision an upgrade in the future. Maybe spending the bucks now wouldn't be the best decision. If you could find a DRZ for half the price of a WRR, then really, which one is the better bike to get started on?

If you want to only consider the three choices you have listed, it appears the DRZ would be the best one.
For the situation you describe, a used bike would easily fit the bill. The Yamaha looks to have a lot more technology going for it but for all intents and purposes, you are splitting hairs when comparing the three of them for your intended usage.

If I knew I was buying a bike that I was planning to keep for a long time, and I was OK with something in the small-bore category, I might choose the Yamaha. But to buy stepping stone into the sport, I doubt it. Something less expensive and not so new is appealing because even if you drop it, crash it, neglect it or just plain drive the snot out of it, you aren't going to take as big a hit on resale.


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