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Old 09-20-2011, 04:56 PM   #3031
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Nope. The other way around.
don't think so. If you look at the design, it is better suited for passengers than for cargo...

But.... I'm not 'merican
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Old 09-20-2011, 04:57 PM   #3032
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yup. evolved from passenger / compact vans...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_E-Series
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Old 09-20-2011, 05:29 PM   #3033
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yup. evolved from passenger / compact vans...
Your wrong. American vans were mainly cargo vans. The majority of them still are. I first started driving a 1st generation Econoline at my job as a teenager in 1962 or ‘63. A cargo van. Passenger versions were very, very rare.

“In the first 1961 model year, 29,932 standard vans, 6,571 custom Econoline buses, “

Almost 30,000 standard, cargo, vans. Of the total 36503 vans only 21% were “busses”
See what comes first here? Cargo.

“It was originally offered as a cargo van, an 8-passenger van with 3 rows of seats (which carried the Ford Falcon name) and as a pickup truck.”

Damn furriners.
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Old 09-20-2011, 05:32 PM   #3034
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If it was designed as a cargo van from the beginning, the designers must have been stupid as shit.
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Old 09-20-2011, 05:36 PM   #3035
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Cargo vans were smaller then. I guess we didn't buy as much crap.
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Old 09-20-2011, 06:30 PM   #3036
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A guy on my old van site says that’s a genuine Quadravan. Some of them seem to value those highly.


You are correct.
The owner told me he bought it for $200.00
Not sure how much he had in it when I saw it but ....
it sounded pretty healthy. He was top gun at the local mud-fest.



This one I really like.
Pre-van utility in a 4X4.
Very well re-done.

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Old 09-20-2011, 07:11 PM   #3037
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It's a new Japanese trend

Yep, definitely got some "boso" influence going on there. Maybe they're running out of Hiace vans...







By the way, while searching for the above pics, I found this...




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Old 09-20-2011, 08:06 PM   #3038
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The first US vans were the 64, 65 (?) Chevy and the Ford Econoline. They were cargo vans. I owned both. Then the hippy movement came along and many were converted to shag vans or mobile living quarters. Lord knows, I picked up a bunch of first generation Econolines, cleaned and painted them flat black Rustoneum (with a roller) - and sold them to wantabe hippies for a nice profit. And that was in '71.

I still own a second generation '73 E200 with only 85,000 miles on her. Love that van and keep it to use occasionally to haul my bike and sleep over at events.
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Old 09-20-2011, 08:38 PM   #3039
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Ummmmm water cooled license plate?
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Old 09-21-2011, 08:04 AM   #3040
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If it was designed as a cargo van from the beginning, the designers must have been stupid as shit.
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If it was designed as a cargo van from the beginning, the designers must have been stupid as shit.
Yeah, WTF were they thinkin’?! Those things will never sell so they won’t be around for long.
Only 50 years for the Ford Econolines so far.
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Yeah, WTF were they thinkin’?! Those things will never sell so they won’t be around for long.
Only 50 years for the Ford Econolines so far.


I really love mine. More headroom would be nice at times, but in my opinion, "traditional" American vans look so much better than sprinters and transits. I can't help but think of them as UPS trucks. I know they are much more useful, but sometimes looks count for something.
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Old 09-21-2011, 08:54 AM   #3042
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More headroom would be nice at times....
I agree on the headroom. But the versatility & utility of them is more important to me than looks. And unlike a high top van I can still get them in my garage. That can be a real plus. Always wanted a pop-top like this one, never could find one here.
Guy that has this one has done a ton of work on it, it’s a beauty. Needs "mag wheels".





Vans this size don’t need an acre to turn around in either. I wouldn’t want to deal with one that’s the size of yours.
I think even the newer standard size ones, not extended ones, are too big for my tastes.
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Old 09-21-2011, 09:03 AM   #3043
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The first US vans were the 64, 65 (?) Chevy and the Ford Econoline....
First ones came out in 1961.
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I still own a second generation '73 E200 ...
I have some of those '69-'74 E200s.
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I agree on the headroom. But the versatility & utility of them is more important to me than looks. And unlike a high top van I can still get them in my garage. That can be a real plus. Always wanted a pop-top like this one, never could find one here.
Guy that has this one has done a ton of work on it, it’s a beauty. Needs "mag wheels".





Vans this size don’t need an acre to turn around in either. I wouldn’t want to deal with one that’s the size of yours.
I think even the newer standard size ones, not extended ones, are too big for my tastes.



My extended van is sort of a pain sometimes; wouldn't fit in a parking garage in Denver the other day (too tall). But I find it easier to parallel park than our Jetta.... my wife thinks I'm crazy, but it's true. We live in a small town in a rural area, so the size isn't a big deal.

I'd love to have a poptop, but installing one is crazy $$ unless you do it yourself, and I haz no skilz.
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Old 09-21-2011, 09:22 AM   #3045
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.. my wife thinks I'm crazy, but it's true.
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