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Old 02-13-2012, 02:40 PM   #4276
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You left out the entire quote...I put "as one person said"...so it wasn't my quote..
I didn't miss that part, was just addressing the point.

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I hope you find the same results on something slippery-I.E. a turd.
Like this?



Or this?



Have driven a lot of stuff like that first pic, and I know it doesn't look very impressive, but that's a super-duper-sketchy slippery sidehill in that second pic. And those are just whatever crappy tires came with the van. Has done pretty well in the snow too. Think it mostly comes down to the extra weight over the rear axle, so it seems to do a little better than say, a similarly-equipped 2WD truck might.
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Old 02-13-2012, 08:53 PM   #4277
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Dude! glad you love your van!

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I didn't miss that part, was just addressing the point.


Like this?



Or this?



Have driven a lot of stuff like that first pic, and I know it doesn't look very impressive, but that's a super-duper-sketchy slippery sidehill in that second pic. And those are just whatever crappy tires came with the van. Has done pretty well in the snow too. Think it mostly comes down to the extra weight over the rear axle, so it seems to do a little better than say, a similarly-equipped 2WD truck might.
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Old 02-14-2012, 12:43 AM   #4278
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Dude! glad you love your van!
Sorry, wasn't trying to make this too much about my van. Was just relating my experiences with one of these vans, having recently acquired one (have never owned any type of van before). Being being much more familiar with real off-road vehicles, have just been pleasantly surprised. That's all. The lack of a real frame, and the questionable strength of all the suspension/steering components would be points to address if you really wanted to mob one of these, but hey, they're pretty van-tastic.
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Old 02-14-2012, 05:16 AM   #4279
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Sorry, wasn't trying to make this too much about my van. Was just relating my experiences with one of these vans, having recently acquired one (have never owned any type of van before). Being being much more familiar with real off-road vehicles, have just been pleasantly surprised. That's all. The lack of a real frame, and the questionable strength of all the suspension/steering components would be points to address if you really wanted to mob one of these, but hey, they're pretty van-tastic.
I don't see any need for all/4 wheel drive if all you do is drive on the road. All it does is make the drive train more complicated and add several hundred pounds to the vehicle. It also adds to the price. Where I live we get plenty of snow and ice. I run 4 good snow tires and I can go anywhere I want. All 4wd does is allow you get moving faster when conditions are crappy and then hit other objects harder when you cant stop or turn. All vehicles have 4 wheel brakes and 2 wheel steering.

Now for offroad driving, I can see the need for 4wd. But as you have proven in the above pictures, it is not really necessary either.
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Old 02-14-2012, 06:43 AM   #4280
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My 2wd with good tires got stuck in the snow 2 weeks ago.
I wasn't off road.. just a ski resort parking lot (and in the traffic lane).

When we get epic snow in Colorado.. 4wd is definitely an asset. Do you know how many people it takes to push a 3 ton vehicle? (4 cars worth)

We use our van for winter sports (snowboarding, snowshoeing, hiking) and I will be seriously considering trading it in on 4wd when the 4wd Sprinters finally make it to the US even with the added expense, complexity and fuel costs.

When I'm 25 miles up a mountain road and 4wd saves me from having to walk out.. it'll be priceless.
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Old 02-14-2012, 06:55 AM   #4281
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My 2wd with good tires got stuck in the snow 2 weeks ago.
I wasn't off road.. just a ski resort parking lot (and in the traffic lane).

When we get epic snow in Colorado.. 4wd is definitely an asset. Do you know how many people it takes to push a 3 ton vehicle? (4 cars worth)

We use our van for winter sports (snowboarding, snowshoeing, hiking) and I will be seriously considering trading it in on 4wd when the 4wd Sprinters finally make it to the US even with the added expense, complexity and fuel costs.

When I'm 25 miles up a mountain road and 4wd saves me from having to walk out.. it'll be priceless.
They make a locker for that truck?

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Old 02-14-2012, 07:10 AM   #4282
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Let's soundproof this thing!



Well, maybe not soundPROOF, but at least a little less loud.



Do this to your doors, and they actually sound like a Mercedes when you slam the door.

Next up, is the roof, which is actually a Giant Tin Tympani Drum.
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Old 02-14-2012, 07:10 AM   #4283
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Old 02-14-2012, 09:51 AM   #4284
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They make a locker for that truck?

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No

The computer does detect wheel spin and pulse the brake on the spinning wheel.. but it wasn't enough the other day.
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Old 02-14-2012, 09:53 AM   #4285
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Let's soundproof this thing!


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Do this to your doors, and they actually sound like a Mercedes when you slam the door.

Next up, is the roof, which is actually a Giant Tin Tympani Drum.
Nice!

Do a triple layer on your rear wheel wells
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Old 02-14-2012, 09:54 AM   #4286
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The computer does detect wheel spin and pulse the brake on the spinning wheel.. but it wasn't enough the other day.


time for a 9"swap
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Old 02-14-2012, 10:13 AM   #4287
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time for a 9"swap
For something that big, I'd prefer a Dana 60.
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Old 02-14-2012, 11:23 AM   #4288
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I used to be a Mobile DJ and for all the gigs I did at ski resorts that would have been awesome!!!!
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Old 02-14-2012, 11:40 AM   #4289
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Let's soundproof this thing!



Well, maybe not soundPROOF, but at least a little less loud.



Do this to your doors, and they actually sound like a Mercedes when you slam the door.

Next up, is the roof, which is actually a Giant Tin Tympani Drum.
What kind of soundproofing is that? I'd like that in my "I cant start my" Van Again.
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Old 02-14-2012, 12:25 PM   #4290
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What kind of soundproofing is that? I'd like that in my "I cant start my" Van Again.
Its actually fairly cheap compared to Dynamat. Nice and heavy, good and sticky. Its from www.raamaudio.com

You might also try www.fatmat.com - they have three different varieties / pricepoints. I've got a roll of their Megamat on order- I'll see how they compare.

Geek: Three layers?! Guess I better try that. I kinda went to town on the step wells. The upper attic / headliner got fully coated with the raam mat and a foam layer. It had one small little symbolic thin piece of asphaltic pad that did.... nothing, I think.
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