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Old 03-17-2013, 08:06 AM   #6121
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Van is looking great DCHead!
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Old 03-17-2013, 08:09 AM   #6122
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Carl, wow, can we have some details? For example where did that little stove range come from?


Got windows and a door into our new 04 E-350 turbo diesel box van. The van is proving to be killer, lots of room, I'm 6'5 and just barely fit in it but normal height people are fine. Full 10' long and 6'6" wide. Has the stock 138" ford wheel base. Handles like a van, really isn't too much larger driving wise, but has gobs more room inside. The huge windows have been killer, purchased used off the local classifieds and came from an RV.

I removed the separator between the cab and the box already. I also put in a nice stereo and better center console. It also boogies nicely. I have a 2" Maxx-Lift ready to be installed and some other goodies keeping it simple... Tires will be 235 85 R16 my new favorite tire size. All E rated, 31.8" tall but only 6" wide tread or so, good for fuel efficiency and handling in the snow. I'll likely be buying out the last of the Cooper Discovery ATRs which are a good meaty all terrain that are nice and cheap right now... More photos and details to come shortly...
Love the box van, we looked at a few cube vans when we were searching, was just hard to find one that hadn't been beat to @#$%. Would love to see some more details on your conversion, like the side door and what you're doing in the back.

The cooktop is just a generic 2-burner atwood RV unit, they retail around $98. Fridge is a 63qt edgestar that we've used for the last couple years for race weekends and in other campers, mounted it to a sliding tray.

The tires in the first picture are actually Cooper 235/85 AT3's, which are kind of their replacement for the atr. I haven't gotten too far off the beaten path yet with them but looking forward to seeing how they perform with the limited slip rear.

Interior height in mine is only 5-7 in most parts, there's a narrow strip down the middle that is 5-10 so I can stand up straight-ish. There's a bit more room to be had so at some point the ceiling might get ripped out and redone for more headroom and less lights.
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Old 03-17-2013, 09:19 PM   #6123
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Thx Carl, right on, I'll have to check that out. Been thinking a lot aobut an electric fridge. With a couple solar panels that would be great. I agree about it being hard finding one not completely beat to shit. Also these are made of plastic coated plywood, so not the most durable in the rear. Surprisingly durable, but not hugely, so you do have to be cautious to make sure there aren't any major issues. This one was in good shape, the engine recently had a ton of work done to it to address the EGR / oil cooler issue on the 6.0s, so it was solid. It had also briefly been a camper in its past life as well, hence the roof rack made of pipe.
This said I've undone a ton of stuff on it so far, it's a great base...

Door I also bought off the local classifieds. I have a spare if anyone is interested or needs one, in great shape. This is the good little size that's out there, complete with a screen door.

I'll probably put a thread together somewhere as I get farther along...
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Old 03-18-2013, 09:40 PM   #6124
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needs a cargo trailer with a Ural inside




when are you picking it up?

I'm not, like I said..........................

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............not as nice as the pics make it look
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Old 03-19-2013, 10:20 AM   #6125
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Old 03-19-2013, 12:24 PM   #6126
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I've been posting some of my plans over the expedition portal site which I used to hang out on quite a bit back in the day. at some point I'll put a buildup somewhere especially as I have more things done. I'll be keeping it simple I think and add things as they are needed. But I think the biggest thing with the box van is that you can sleep in it sideways. It's 6'6" wide, so even me at 6'5 fits in it.

http://www.expeditionportal.com/foru...15#post1305615
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Old 03-19-2013, 04:13 PM   #6127
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Tire Sizes for Vans

I looked around at lot at different tire sizes for vans. I came to the conclusion that 235 85R 16 is a completely bad ass tire size for vans. A little cheaper when you find it than many other sizes. This size only comes in E-rated. many are M+S rated and most manufacturers of aggressive aka "traction" type tires make their sizes in this size. they measure 31.8" diameter (about the same as 265 85 R 16) except that it's about an inch narrower, and lighter.

Better mileage, snow and mud traction, with all of the same girth...

This is what the box van has in the rear right now. Just ordered up 4 new ones for all 4 corners. Got a screamin deal on the Cooper ATRs which are the predecessor to the AT3 they just came out with and are on closeout. Still a good meaty tire. I paid $126 a tire or about $625 with tax and mount and balance through Discount Tire.

I was considering BFG ATs agian but the ATR seems to have similar characteristics (in terms of off road) but has a center groove for better mileage and is siped for decent snow performance. Pretty excited to see how they do but everything I've seen online is great. I also think they'll last a little longer than a BFG AT with luck. Not that BFG AT are that bad at all and they have treated me great over the years...

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Old 03-19-2013, 05:15 PM   #6128
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here is a good build from another sight i frequent.
it has a good surprise at the end
http://www.dezertrangers.com/vb/gene...n/166505-1.htm
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Old 03-19-2013, 06:09 PM   #6129
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I looked around at lot at different tire sizes for vans. I came to the conclusion that 235 85R 16 is a completely bad ass tire size for vans. A little cheaper when you find it than many other sizes. This size only comes in E-rated. many are M+S rated and most manufacturers of aggressive aka "traction" type tires make their sizes in this size. they measure 31.8" diameter (about the same as 265 85 R 16) except that it's about an inch narrower, and lighter.

Better mileage, snow and mud traction, with all of the same girth...

This is what the box van has in the rear right now. Just ordered up 4 new ones for all 4 corners. Got a screamin deal on the Cooper ATRs which are the predecessor to the AT3 they just came out with and are on closeout. Still a good meaty tire. I paid $126 a tire or about $625 with tax and mount and balance through Discount Tire.

I was considering BFG ATs agian but the ATR seems to have similar characteristics (in terms of off road) but has a center groove for better mileage and is siped for decent snow performance. Pretty excited to see how they do but everything I've seen online is great. I also think they'll last a little longer than a BFG AT with luck. Not that BFG AT are that bad at all and they have treated me great over the years...

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Do those fit under the stock suspension? Also, any more details on the center console? I currently have a cooler bungied in between the front seats :). Also looking for something to attach to the headliner, lots of wasted space up there.
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Old 03-19-2013, 07:17 PM   #6130
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Do those fit under the stock suspension? .
Yeah they do- in my case there's a slight rub under full turn with suspension movement, but that's because of the heavy/thick running boards with wheel flares. Without those would be no problem.


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Old 03-19-2013, 09:08 PM   #6131
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Correct, they should fit without a lift. This said I still plan on the 2" lift and definitely could have gone larger but I still like this for the fuel mileage etc (though the lift will counteract some of that).

For the center console, I've been junkyarding lately and there are decent ones all over the yards. Its amazing how commercial vans go down. This said, I got impatient and read another thread where a guy had put in one of these off ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/320971756364...84.m1439.l2649

So I bought one and put it in too. At first I thought it was over priced at about $60 with shipping, but its really really growing on me and there are tons of little spots for additional storage. So I'm definitely likeing it. The color is slightly different than the gray in our XL line van but it still looks great and functions awesome. So I'm pumped about it...
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Old 03-20-2013, 06:31 AM   #6132
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Correct, they should fit without a lift. This said I still plan on the 2" lift and definitely could have gone larger but I still like this for the fuel mileage etc (though the lift will counteract some of that).

For the center console, I've been junkyarding lately and there are decent ones all over the yards. Its amazing how commercial vans go down. This said, I got impatient and read another thread where a guy had put in one of these off ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/320971756364...84.m1439.l2649

So I bought one and put it in too. At first I thought it was over priced at about $60 with shipping, but its really really growing on me and there are tons of little spots for additional storage. So I'm definitely likeing it. The color is slightly different than the gray in our XL line van but it still looks great and functions awesome. So I'm pumped about it...
Do you have a pic of that in the van? I've been looking for a better console; mine just has one large opening and a couple of drink holders.
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Old 03-20-2013, 06:36 AM   #6133
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Correct, they should fit without a lift. This said I still plan on the 2" lift and definitely could have gone larger but I still like this for the fuel mileage etc (though the lift will counteract some of that).

For the center console, I've been junkyarding lately and there are decent ones all over the yards. Its amazing how commercial vans go down. This said, I got impatient and read another thread where a guy had put in one of these off ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/320971756364...84.m1439.l2649

So I bought one and put it in too. At first I thought it was over priced at about $60 with shipping, but its really really growing on me and there are tons of little spots for additional storage. So I'm definitely likeing it. The color is slightly different than the gray in our XL line van but it still looks great and functions awesome. So I'm pumped about it...

Do you know if that console will fit all years with the newer body style? Mines a 92, not sure what changed interior wise. Also, is yours the 250 or 350? Would that matter with the tires? I like the idea of a tall skinny tire.
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Old 03-20-2013, 06:51 AM   #6134
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Correct, they should fit without a lift. This said I still plan on the 2" lift and definitely could have gone larger but I still like this for the fuel mileage etc (though the lift will counteract some of that).

For the center console, I've been junkyarding lately and there are decent ones all over the yards. Its amazing how commercial vans go down. This said, I got impatient and read another thread where a guy had put in one of these off ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/320971756364...84.m1439.l2649

So I bought one and put it in too. At first I thought it was over priced at about $60 with shipping, but its really really growing on me and there are tons of little spots for additional storage. So I'm definitely likeing it. The color is slightly different than the gray in our XL line van but it still looks great and functions awesome. So I'm pumped about it...
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:23 AM   #6135
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Do you have a pic of that in the van? I've been looking for a better console; mine just has one large opening and a couple of drink holders.
I don't but I'll snap one. the ones I was looking at come in 90% of vans probably like yours, and this one is def bigger and nicer and has tons of storage. the lower hole in the middle has a shelf in it. Great place to lose things deep deep in the console for a long time! They are take outs from new vans that they are doing conversions or RVs, supposedly...

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Do you know if that console will fit all years with the newer body style? Mines a 92, not sure what changed interior wise. Also, is yours the 250 or 350? Would that matter with the tires? I like the idea of a tall skinny tire.
Not sure and mostly doubt it will fit the older styles. We also once had a '94 E-250 I wish I would have kept it, it was such a sick van... At the junk yard there are all sorts of vans, I would suggest going to your friendly u-pull it style and see if the ones with the later dash interchange with the older.

Mine is the 350 but seems to have the same stance of 250 so I'm pretty sure it would fit fine. I wish our 77 E-150 van was 8 lug otherwise I'd check to see. The E-150 is a fat conversion camper van with 35 year old springs that are super soft, so it sits nice and low... This said I'm pretty sure it would fit.

The lift I got is a complete POS with hard plastic pucks but is the only thing "made" for the E-250 and E-350 and they probably make one for E-150s too. It comes from a company called Maxx-Lift that is sketchy, but I did also get lift blocks for the rear which was nice and most folks on other forums say the Maxx Lift pucks are just fine. Maxx Lift will charge you something like $70 for shipping but then flat rate it. Over charging on shipping is built into their business model. The way to buy it is to email them to add the product to ebay and then do free shipping that way.

Supposedly F series pucks will fit in the Es but I never figured out which / did the research, and then I could have bought a more heavy duty steel kit for about the same price. Whatever though...

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Great question. Noise is noticeable versus a van but it doesn't bother me too much. I could sound and insulate it similar to Geek but because I need ever inch of width I just skipped. I was going to use what is called automotive truck liner carpet for the walls but in the interest of just keeping it simple I'm going to paint for now and worry about it later if it comes to it. For insulation, I'm doing the roof only because it's already there and just needs some wooden covers, and because it has a metal roof. The plywood insulates pretty well already. I'll install a webasto heater (similar to the Espar that geek installed) and I'm basically not going to worry about insulation because it burns so little fuel over night and my understanding is they are very powerful/work great even for a space of this size. I may come back to it though, we'll see. We're also probably seldomly going to camp in true winter I feel and I have good sleeping bags. As long as its tolerable inside, I figure...

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