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[ImaPoser]

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Originally Posted by eoR

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If you have developed a love interest with one of the team members, your opportunity will come after you have committed to going through the Omega 4 Relay. Joker will tell you that the ETA to the relay is about 2 hours. That's when "something" will happen.

If you have worked the Kelly angle, your chance with her will come after you have rescued her from the Collector Base. She will come to your cabin and perform a nice lapdance for you while wearing a thong.

I must have screwed up the Kelly and Miranda story lines way early on. Probably from being too renegade oriented. I seemed to use that during most conversations.
That's how I screwed up my first play through. I hooked up with Jack for the pre- omega 4 scene, and she survived. So I went down and told her off after the mission hoping it would unlock the kelly scene. Didn't happen. And I didn't have a save point between the end of the game and then

The "trick" I was referring to was a way to complete Legion's loyalty mission and still be able to save the crew. Many do not know that in order to save the crew on the Collector base, you have to go through the Omega 4 Relay immediately after they are abducted. If you take a side mission or fart around after the abduction, the crew members will all die.

You have to continue to talk to Legion immediately after you learn that he wants to join your mission. If you return to the galaxy map platform before accepting his loyalty mission, you get locked into leaving the ship on the shuttle -- which triggers the other events.

I didn't and still saved them. I did every other loyalty mission before finding legion. Once I found him, I did his loyalty mission right away. After that, the only thing I had left to do in my journal was to give someone the id's I found at the citadel. After the Joker cut scene, I took off, went to the citadel, finished it, then came back and went through the relay. Still got there in time to save the crew.
As a matter of fact, I heard the message about having to take the shuttle on the next mission a couple of times before it actually happened. Thought it seemed odd at the time.

All of the team members can potentially survive the "suicide" mission if they are loyal -- and if you give the right people the right assignments. Selecting Legion for the infiltration job, making Garrus the leader of the second squad, choosing Mordin to escort the rescued crew members back to the Normandy, and choosing Samara/Morinth to maintain the protective biotic field seems to work for almost everyone. There are other choices that will work, of course.

I lost three in my first ending. The first one I figured was a suicide job, so I sent thane. He died. I picked garrus as the second team leader, and Samara to maintain the biotic field, both seemed to be right choices. I sent Jacob back with the crew, and he survived, but both Mordin and Tali must have died in battle. I saved the ship that go round, and boy everyone was pissed. Unfortunately, after that, I went back to an earlier save to try a different angle, then realized I had never saved it after finishing it, and the auto save had been overwritten by then. I don't know if there will be a completed game to import from that ending.

I liked it enough that I'm going to head down there now and do another ending play through, from an even earlier save. Fallout NV can wait till tonight.

[ImaPoser]

Originally Posted by eoR

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If a team member isn't loyal, they die. I haven't seen any exceptions to this yet.

Just noticed this part. I just played through the ending again, this time saving everyone. Tali is not loyal as I dimed out her father in her loyalty mission. That was the point I mentioned in an earlier post where I played it through one way, liked the results(did what she wanted), then went back and played it the other way, and didn't like the results, but when I went to reload the previous save, I hit delete instead.
Anyway, I like the end results of this one good enough to count this as my first upload for ME3 in the future. I'm going to go to fallout, and sometime after that I will decide if I want to start a whole new game over from ME1, or just start a new character on ME2. Female paragon biotic leaning character next time around.

[eoR]

If you have enough renegade points, you can tell the Admiralty Board to essentially go to Hell and start to walk out of the trial. You then turn around and remind them of Tali's efforts in saving the Citadel and they acquit her of all charges without having to reveal anything about what evidence was found on the Aleri.

You later receive an message from one of the Quarian Admirals who discovered what Tali's father was doing and plans to continue his work.

An interesting note -- if you were nice to Veetor ( the wigged out Quarian on the first mission) he seems to be okay when you encounter him on the Quarian ship. If you were mean to him and turned him over to Cerberus, he is a total basket case and is accompanied by his therapist who has to keep him heavily medicated.

Kal Reeger seems to know what really happened on the other ship. I think he will return as a major character in ME3.

[ImaPoser]

Originally Posted by eoR

If you have enough renegade points, you can tell the Admiralty Board to essentially go to Hell and start to walk out of the trial. You then turn around and remind them of Tali's efforts in saving the Citadel and they acquit her of all charges without having to reveal anything about what evidence was found on the Aleri.

You later receive an message from one of the Quarian Admirals who discovered what Tali's father was doing and plans to continue his work.

An interesting note -- if you were nice to Veetor ( the wigged out Quarian on the first mission) he seems to be okay when you encounter him on the Quarian ship. If you were mean to him and turned him over to Cerberus, he is a total basket case and is accompanied by his therapist who has to keep him heavily medicated.

Kal Reeger seems to know what really happened on the other ship. I think he will return as a major character in ME3.

Tali was the last loyalty quest I did (until I found out about legion). I had a renegade of about 70% at that point, and I still didn't have the two options on the left available(I could see them, but not usable). I wonder if that had anything to do with sending the quarian back to cerberus on the first mission as well as overall renegade score?

[eoR]

Originally Posted by ImaPoser

Tali was the last loyalty quest I did (until I found out about legion). I had a renegade of about 70% at that point, and I still didn't have the two options on the left available(I could see them, but not usable). I wonder if that had anything to do with sending the quarian back to cerberus on the first mission as well as overall renegade score?

If there is no paragon nor renegade conversation option available to resolve the Legion / Tali dispute, take Tali's side. Then talk to Legion. You should then have an option available which will regain Legion's loyalty. In the case of the renegade option, you tell him you were lying to Tali because she is too emotional about the situation with her father.

[ImaPoser]

Originally Posted by eoR

If there is no paragon nor renegade conversation option available to resolve the Legion / Tali dispute, take Tali's side. Then talk to Legion. You should then have an option available which will regain Legion's loyalty. In the case of the renegade option, you tell him you were lying to Tali because she is too emotional about the situation with her father.

I don't remember a tali/legion dispute. The situation I was talking about was at her trial.

No matter now anyway, I'm a good half day of game time in to FONV. I'll be dropping back a few dozen pages and reading up on what everyone was talking about when I was just starting FO3.

[Off the grid]

Via Steam:

Mass Effect: 308hrs played.
Mass Effect2: 496hrs played

[eoR]

Originally Posted by ImaPoser

I don't remember a tali/legion dispute. The situation I was talking about was at her trial.

No matter now anyway, I'm a good half day of game time in to FONV. I'll be dropping back a few dozen pages and reading up on what everyone was talking about when I was just starting FO3.

Sorry you missed out on the hookups. You have to talk to Kelly a lot to set it up. After several of the loyalty missions, she will have some comment about the team member that will take a suggestive turn with the right conversation option.

FYI: After you complete Legion's loyalty mission, Joker pages you and tells you that Tali and Legion are having a problem. She is holding him at gunpoint and tells you that she caught him scanning her omni-tool and forwarding data about the migrant fleet to the Geth. Surprised you didn't see that happen.

Hope I was some help navigating the world of Mass Effect. My first couple of playthroughs were a jumbled mess because I really didn't understand what was going on, what I was supposed to do, and what options were available to me regarding relationships.

Done with it for a while. I think 8 playthroughs of ME1 and 12-14 of ME2 is more than adequate for a while. When you start memorizing the voice actors' lines and can anticipate the movements of the AI in combat, it's time to take a break.

Good luck in Vegas.

[ADK]

Originally Posted by ADK

I just got fallout 3 (ps3) , not bad. i'm just getting to megaton and i've used up my first aid and i'm nearly dead. Every direction I go I get killed. Anybody got any suggestions? TIA

Found my way to Megaton, got some sleep and talked to everybody in town. I haven't played it since.

[meatsack]

Originally Posted by ADK

Found my way to Megaton, got some sleep and talked to everybody in town. I haven't played it since.

The game is a little slow to get started and it's easy to off your self right away. Some of the early quests are a little hard to figure out on your own. Taking a look at a walk-through guide to get started won't take much (any) of the shine off the rest of the game.

Hang in there, it'll get better.

[McNeal]

Originally Posted by ADK

Found my way to Megaton, got some sleep and talked to everybody in town. I haven't played it since.

I felt pretty much the same way when I started. Then things started to click and I got hooked. I can't tell you the number of times I went to bed around 3am. Time just flew by while playing the game.

Santa was nice to me and I got Fallout: New Vegas and Gran Turismo 5. I haven't played FONV yet, I've been hooked by GT5.

[Jonnylotto]

I got Epic Mickey for the Wii.

Strangely enjoyable game.

[ImaPoser]

Originally Posted by McNeal

I felt pretty much the same way when I started. Then things started to click and I got hooked. I can't tell you the number of times I went to bed around 3am. Time just flew by while playing the game.

Santa was nice to me and I got Fallout: New Vegas and Gran Turismo 5. I haven't played FONV yet, I've been hooked by GT5.

I'm in to FONV as santa brought that here as well. Not as good as FO3, but I still lose track of time while playing it.

[Off the grid]

Originally Posted by ImaPoser

I'm in to FONV as santa brought that here as well. Not as good as FO3, but I still lose track of time while playing it.

The thing I don't like about FONV is that it's too easy. I'm at max lvl now with a shit-ton of weapons and actually go out looking for enemies. As apposed to the beginning of the game where it took my entire inventory to kill a small Radscorpion. :P

[McNeal]

Originally Posted by ImaPoser

I'm in to FONV as santa brought that here as well. Not as good as FO3, but I still lose track of time while playing it.

It's true that you loose track of time. Last night at around 10pm I thought I would play for a few more minutes, next time I looked up it was 2am.

I didn't like those Legion guys so I popped three of them, now they all hate me. I wonder how that's going to change the story line.

I definitely like the story line in FO3 better than FONV.