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Old 10-03-2009, 05:17 PM   #16
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I wish I had silver rims...



Next time I'm going with CapoNord (thanks Y.P.!!) rims, too. Mine were supposed to be sealed...it worked for a while but there are tubes in both ends now. I was tired of the slow leaks.

I don't think the spoke sealing is the problem...I think the rims are the problem. I don't think the beads seal right.
Also...Woody, I spoke earlier (in the other thread) about my front wheel needing truing...turns out it's fine, it was an out of round tire. That'll do it!
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:40 AM   #17
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Next time I'm going with CapoNord (thanks Y.P.!!) rims, too. Mine were supposed to be sealed...it worked for a while but there are tubes in both ends now. I was tired of the slow leaks.

I don't think the spoke sealing is the problem...I think the rims are the problem. I don't think the beads seal right.

i believe you are on to something,,,the more recent group of Excel rims are different in the sense that the weld area is no longer machined as accurately as in the old days,,,PLUS they have a much more aggresive serrated sidewall on the outer flange when testing for leaks it does not show up,,,,but over alonger period of time we have noticed that this occurs occasionally,,,we have detuned the serrations,put a thin film of silicone around the outer bead and machine off allt he anomolies in the weld area,,,that has seemed to work in recent time...w
Also...Woody, I spoke earlier (in the other thread) about my front wheel needing truing...turns out it's fine, it was an out of round tire. That'll do it!
i'm not surprized,,,this scenario has played out more often than not,,,i'm confident that the durability of the truing /Superlacing process has withstood the test of time as well as pounding you guys give them,,w

PS,,if i find a buyer for your wheels ,,i'll let you know,,,,OBTW,,,i too agree,,,silver would look better IMHO,,woody
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Old 01-20-2010, 07:27 PM   #18
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Hi Woody,
I'm interested in a 19/17 set for my 06 625 SMC. Stock hubs, Excell rims, more for dual sport than street. What would you suggest, and a rough idea on cost, shipped to Calgary, AB? Will I have interference problems with the spokes and the calipher, with the stock rotor?

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Old 01-20-2010, 08:34 PM   #19
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Old 01-20-2010, 08:37 PM   #20
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So what tires are available for the 19/17 set-up?

So far I've found:

1- Conti Trail attack
2- Michelin Pilot Roads
3- Conti road Attack

Which are deemed the stickies?
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Old 01-20-2010, 09:03 PM   #21
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dual sport set-up for the '06 625SMC

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Hi Woody,
I'm interested in a 19/17 set for my 06 625 SMC. Stock hubs, Excell rims, more for dual sport than street. What would you suggest, and a rough idea on cost, shipped to Calgary, AB? Will I have interference problems with the spokes and the calipher, with the stock rotor?

Thanks,
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refresh my memory on your current rim size,,,it had a 17/17 set up possibly 4.25 x17 on rear???

also are we using your wheels traded in as basis for building the new set?? ,,,,it makes about a $500 difference

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OBTW..there are no interference problems that i know of
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I got Silver and want Black!
last time you wished for budget minded etc,etc,,,,and that's what ya got

i am the genie

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Old 01-20-2010, 10:42 PM   #23
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So what tires are available for the 19/17 set-up?

So far I've found:

1- Conti Trail attack
2- Michelin Pilot Roads
3- Conti road Attack


Which are deemed the stickies?
sticky where???

metzler Tourances
conti TKC-80s
avon Distanzias
Pirelli Scorpians
Heidenaus
kendas
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Old 01-23-2010, 11:20 AM   #24
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Hello Woody,
From everything I've seen and heard, you are an awsome member of this forum.

I now have a new-to-me 950 ADV and am looking seriously at the 19/17 set-up for my more on-road ryding... will keep the 21/18 set up for the "serious" tryiping in the dirt/gravel.

I've read a lot in here regarding the Caponord wheel set-up and as I want to go tubeless with superlaced spokes thsi seems like a good approach. I've price a set of rims on various Aprilia parts sites... not sure how you aource them?
And big price/quality advantage to going with the Caponord set versus your "ground-up" building, assuming the same component quality of course??

Inquiring minds want to know

BTW, I pm'd a couple of days ago but recognized that you are/were over in Germany sorting out (?) the Behr issue.

Best from just north of the border in SE Ontario,

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Old 01-23-2010, 11:58 AM   #25
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refresh my memory on your current rim size,,,it had a 17/17 set up possibly 4.25 x17 on rear???

also are we using your wheels traded in as basis for building the new set?? ,,,,it makes about a $500 difference

woody

OBTW..there are no interference problems that i know of
Hi Woody,
Stock is 3.5 x 17 and 5.0 x 17, Brembo 4 piston caliper, 320 mm disc.
I will keep the stock wheels.

New wheels, 19/17 for dual sport, using existing brakes, with stock KTM hubs, cush on the rear, Excel rims. Could you also give me a cost to upgrade to billet hubs.

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Old 01-23-2010, 12:12 PM   #26
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Yellow Pig wants Black rims Chuckracer wants silver?/

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hey guys why not talk to each other...????
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oem hubs versus billet on 19/17 SM conversion$$$$?????

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Hi Woody,
Stock is 3.5 x 17 and 5.0 x 17, Brembo 4 piston caliper, 320 mm disc.
I will keep the stock wheels.

New wheels, 19/17 for dual sport, using existing brakes, with stock KTM hubs, cush on the rear, Excel rims. Could you also give me a cost to upgrade to billet hubs.

Thanks,
Doug
roughly the billet set-up including sprocket carrier ends up circa $500 more..includes your choice of hub colors

the oem trick wheels are circa $1700-1800 depending on color...add extra for sealing....OBTW,,the last 6 months have us fine tuning and prepping the Excel rims a little more ...the last year or so we noticed that the finish on the inside had more aggressive serrations on the lips ,,,divots where the rim was welded together,,clearly someone else is building these rims ...so we have traced real slow leaks to these areas which we prep ,,leaks are zero now,,,seems to be working...
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Old 02-09-2010, 01:49 PM   #28
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Is there any way that 1.85x19 and 3.00x17 would work for 990 Adv.?

What is the worst that can happen if I manage to fit 110 or 120 front and 150 at the back? Is it possible?

I saw your rim_tire chart but I had to ask :)

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1.85x19 and 3.0x17 rims for 990 adv?????...

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Is there any way that 1.85x19 and 3.00x17 would work for 990 Adv.?

What is the worst that can happen if I manage to fit 110 or 120 front and 150 at the back? Is it possible?

I saw your rim_tire chart but I had to ask :)
well you would certainly limit yourself to what tires you can use...what is your idea for these rim sizes,,,and their intended use

then i can possibly give you a better answer..

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Old 03-03-2010, 11:09 AM   #30
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I wish I had silver rims...
You are certainly in the minority; I saw a poll somewhere on 9x0 rim colour choices - black/silver was 10/1 ? I think the silver 03 KTM adventures are one of teh few of those bikes that look better with silver
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