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Old 12-08-2009, 08:36 PM   #91
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I had a '99 VFR800, rode my buddies' 1100S and instantly knew I liked the Honda far better The S wasn't any faster, had less fuel range, didn't sound as good and vibrated like a paint shaker in comparison....
but yet you call yourself "twinrider" interesting.
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Old 12-09-2009, 01:32 AM   #92
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but yet you call yourself "twinrider" interesting.
Yes, it has a nicer ring than twinandV4rider
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Old 12-09-2009, 11:50 AM   #93
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My exhaust bushings have over 40,000 miles on them and still look good.

Rear ride height can be changed with a shorter (off a GS) final drive support strut.

The best thing you can do to improve handling is Ohlins shocks, front and rear.
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Work with someone like Ted Porter's Beemershop that will send you a questionnaire and get them sprung and valved appropriately.

They made a shorter strut that probably came on your bike (you have a Boxer Cup Prep, right?).

I had my bike for three years and replaced them twice. Not sure on the squeaking noise, but I'd guess it's the belt still. Cold mornings would always make mine squeak, but it'd go away in a few minutes.
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Old 12-09-2009, 11:54 AM   #94
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but yet you call yourself "twinrider" interesting.
I owned both at the same time and still have the VFR (a '98). I sold the S to buy my GS.

The S was roomier for me and more stable. On long trips, the S was a better travel companion, even though it didn't have the range of the VFR. At speed, I never felt anything approaching unsatisfactory vibration on the S. One of my big complaints with the VFR is its tendency to put my hand to sleep when ridden hard.

I found them to be equivalent, one not necessarily better than the other, but each one better tuned to specific tasks.

And let me tell you, nothing is more entertaining than taking an S to track day and having your way with the Japanese sportbikes, particularly under braking.
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Old 12-10-2009, 01:38 AM   #95
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I owned both at the same time and still have the VFR...
Actions speak louder than words

I should say my VFR was not stock. It had a full Erion exhaust that greatly improved throttle response and bumped the power up to 110hp at the rear wheel, Ohlins suspension, Racetech front end, steel-braided brake hoses and wave rotors. It was a very sweet ride but bad knees forced me to sell it...

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Old 12-10-2009, 05:48 AM   #96
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As I age (damn it! ) I have come to realize I won't be on a full out race bike forever. These EXACT 2 bikes are on my short list, the VFR and the R11S. I'm kind of leaning R11S.

Dream scenario would be to get the R11S to replace the RSV-R and a 2003 F650GS Dakar to replace the KLX!
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Old 12-10-2009, 06:26 AM   #97
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Best secondhand sport tourers.

In the September 2009 issue of Visor Down magazine, they list their "Secondhand Top 10 Sports Tourers" - the 2002+ VFR800 was listed at 8th place and the 1999-2005 R1100S at 10th. On the S, they say:

"Essentially not a bad bike but it's not quite as comfy as a sports tourer and doesn't have the performance to match pure sportsbikes either. It's not without virtues - build and reliability are pretty good, it's a good size for larger riders, it's involving and unusual and still capable and fast enough for 95% of people 95% of the time. But rivals are more complete packages.

Broadly speaking very reliable but a few BMW foibles (expensive clutch replacement, shaft seals) can rear their heads at thigh miles.

S version (from 2000) has sports package including uprated suspension and a wider rear wheel."
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Old 12-10-2009, 06:27 AM   #98
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Have the whole list Crow?
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Old 12-10-2009, 06:34 AM   #99
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Have the whole list Crow?
Here it is:
  1. Honda CBR1100XX Blackbird (1996+)
  2. Kawasaki ZZ-R1200 (2002-2004)
  3. Suzuki GSX1300R Hayabusa (1999-2007)
  4. Suzuki GSX650F (2007+)
  5. BMW F800ST (2006+)
  6. Ducati ST3 (2004-2007)
  7. Triumph Sprint ST 1050 (2005+)
  8. Honda VFR800 VTEC (2002+)
  9. Aprilia SL1000 Falco (1999-2004)
  10. BMW R1100S (1999-2005)
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Old 12-10-2009, 08:01 AM   #100
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Actions speak louder than words

I should say my VFR was not stock. It had a full Erion exhaust that greatly improved throttle response and bumped the power up to 110hp at the rear wheel, Ohlins suspension, Racetech front end, steel-braided brake hoses and wave rotors. It was a very sweet ride but bad knees forced me to sell it...
Yeah. I swapped the S out for the R12GS when it first came out. I really wanted something more tour capable. The S was nice, but MrsK hated riding on the back of it and the bike didn't really care for dirt roads. Crossing Nevada could be entertaining when the light came on and I was still 25 miles from town and running 100mph.

My VFR has Ohlins, Helibars, heated grips, a /5 power outlet and a bunch of other stuff. If I could do one thing for that bike, it would be some kind of peg lowering kit. I only need them a half inch or an inch lower. I've done long days on that bike (I have a full Givi set up for it, too), but it left my shoulders sore and my knees aching. I'd have to shake my right hand out every half hour or so to get some feeling back.

It's far happier these days when I treat it like a sporting motorcycle. The S got turned into a GS and I love that bike. It's perfect for the cratered roads that cross the coastal ranges here.
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Old 12-10-2009, 08:08 AM   #101
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Here it is:
  1. Honda CBR1100XX Blackbird (1996+)
  2. Kawasaki ZZ-R1200 (2002-2004)
  3. Suzuki GSX1300R Hayabusa (1999-2007)
  4. Suzuki GSX650F (2007+)
  5. BMW F800ST (2006+)
  6. Ducati ST3 (2004-2007)
  7. Triumph Sprint ST 1050 (2005+)
  8. Honda VFR800 VTEC (2002+)
  9. Aprilia SL1000 Falco (1999-2004)
  10. BMW R1100S (1999-2005)
Thanks Crow.

I was considering a Tuono as it's more upright then my RSV-R and I'm addicted to the power and smoothness of her. I looked at the Falco and Futura, same motor, just detuned. I'm looking for more upright and sporty over a pack all your gear tour bike. Something for "spirited" rides, but has a passenger option and decent comfort for the neck and back.
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Old 12-10-2009, 08:22 AM   #102
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If I could do one thing for that bike, it would be some kind of peg lowering kit. I only need them a half inch or an inch lower.
Dave, check out Larry's, (Busy Little Shop), peg lowering blocks.

I have a set and they are fantastic. He works out of his home garage in the Sacramento area. He is a fascinating guy to visit and talk bikes with. He is a very serious club racer of Honda V-4's, RC 30's, 45's, etc. On the hallway wall in his house is a life size CAD drawing, side view, of an RC30, I think, that he uses to work out suspension adjustments on his race bike. In his side yard is a full airplane project that he has not started yet. Oh ya, the airplane engine, CAD drawing, is on the other wall



A link to the VFR thread that about his blocks.

http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/i...opic=44940&hl=

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Old 12-10-2009, 01:52 PM   #103
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Dave, check out Larry's, (Busy Little Shop), peg lowering blocks.

I have a set and they are fantastic. He works out of his home garage in the Sacramento area. He is a fascinating guy to visit and talk bikes with. He is a very serious club racer of Honda V-4's, RC 30's, 45's, etc. On the hallway wall in his house is a life size CAD drawing, side view, of an RC30, I think, that he uses to work out suspension adjustments on his race bike. In his side yard is a full airplane project that he has not started yet. Oh ya, the airplane engine, CAD drawing, is on the other wall



A link to the VFR thread that about his blocks.

http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/i...opic=44940&hl=

Say hi to Tina for me.

Thanks, Rad. I'll walk down the hall and see her right now.
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Old 12-10-2009, 04:03 PM   #104
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Here it is:
  1. Honda CBR1100XX Blackbird (1996+)
  2. Kawasaki ZZ-R1200 (2002-2004)
  3. Suzuki GSX1300R Hayabusa (1999-2007)
  4. Suzuki GSX650F (2007+)
  5. BMW F800ST (2006+)
  6. Ducati ST3 (2004-2007)
  7. Triumph Sprint ST 1050 (2005+)
  8. Honda VFR800 VTEC (2002+)
  9. Aprilia SL1000 Falco (1999-2004)
  10. BMW R1100S (1999-2005)
Thanks for posting. That's an interesting list. There seem to be a lot of ST bikes missing from the list. Is the magazine (and list) more biased toward pure sport bikes and less about ST bikes? Just wondering why the list is missing Connies and K bikes and ST1x00's and FJR's and ...
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Old 12-10-2009, 04:30 PM   #105
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YIf I could do one thing for that bike, it would be some kind of peg lowering kit. I only need them a half inch or an inch lower. I've done long days on that bike (I have a full Givi set up for it, too), but it left my shoulders sore and my knees aching. I'd have to shake my right hand out every half hour or so to get some feeling back.
My throttle hand is gets numb easily so I put a Throttlemeister throttle lock on the viffer and that helped out quite a bit. Now though cruise control is available and that would absolutely rock. I've got it on my RK and it makes highway riding so much easier.

I'm really kicking myself for not checking into peg-lowering options like the Buell pegs. I would love to still own that bike...
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