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Old 04-10-2012, 06:47 PM   #7846
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Will any correct size o-ring work on the oil fill cap? Bike is an 01 Dakar,it will be the one with oil running down the side
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:20 PM   #7847
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Are the front rim & rotor same for all the models?
Should have compared parts to find this out but I am sure someone already went through this question.
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Old 04-10-2012, 11:09 PM   #7848
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Question Spitting the soot

So i finally opened the season in the warming up but still snowy Moscow.
The problem is, i see that right-hand muffler is spitting some soot. I mean i clean it before the ride, arrive at destination point, check the muffler and i see a lot of black dots, like soot, right near the exhaust hole. They are black and oily. Meanwhile, left exhaust pipe is clean. What is that? Burned out? Some oil problems? Any ideas? (i will try to upload a pic a bit later)


let's see if image of my dakar fits:
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Old 04-10-2012, 11:21 PM   #7849
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Sounds like Kawasaki and their Doohickey, ever turning a blind eye. That was just what I was looking for. I may not get this Dakar, I may try to sell my KLR first and then see what is available at that time. When did they beef up the wheel mounts, was that in 2005? If I did get an '01, how much does the average YZ conversion cost?
If you want a better perspective, I'd go to the source at http://f650.com/forum/showthread.php...t=fork+failure. The beef up happened pretty early in the production cycle, some time in '02.. Conversion costs will depend on eBay pricing at any given time, although someone should be able to give a rough estimate.

The "case against": http://www.f650gs.crossroadz.com.au/FFIntro.html

I have a twin spark so couldn't say for sure, but since the Dakar is basically a regular GS (which has a center stand stock) with upgraded suspension, i wouldn't think the bosses for the center stand would be missing. My '06 definitely had them...
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Old 04-11-2012, 12:18 AM   #7850
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So i finally opened the season in the warming up but still snowy Moscow.
The problem is, i see that right-hand muffler is spitting some soot. I mean i clean it before the ride, arrive at destination point, check the muffler and i see a lot of black dots, like soot, right near the exhaust hole. They are black and oily. Meanwhile, left exhaust pipe is clean. What is that? Burned out? Some oil problems? Any ideas? (i will try to upload a pic a bit later)
I had the same experience with carbon scored vs. clean. On later models, the left exhaust port is completely blocked off, everything travels through to the right can. Some of the earlier ones had a 'pea-shooter' outlet on the left side, not sure what/when the distinction was. Another gem covered somewhere in the f650.com FAQs...
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Old 04-11-2012, 02:25 AM   #7851
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I had the same experience with carbon scored vs. clean. On later models, the left exhaust port is completely blocked off, everything travels through to the right can. Some of the earlier ones had a 'pea-shooter' outlet on the left side, not sure what/when the distinction was. Another gem covered somewhere in the f650.com FAQs...
mine is late '03. Can this be considered a 'later model' ?
thanks for the tip about left one being blocked. will check.

Ok, will try to browse the f650.com, thanks. Just wanted to check if anyone had the same issue, before diving in the depths of f650.com...
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Old 04-11-2012, 05:34 AM   #7852
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If you reserch front fork failures of these bikes you will find the same couple of pictures posted over and over. Almost 100% of these failures were caused by crashes or abuse. If you don't plan on jumping your F650 the older forks are fine. My wifes 2002 F650 dakar had the early forks, and 10 years later the front wheel has yet to come off. If you want to do serious off road stuff you''ll want to upgrade to some Yamaha forks anyway. I wouldn't shy away from any early bike if the condition was good and the price was right. That being said all things being equal (price avalabulity) I would pick a newer model.


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Thanks for your reply.

I guess with known problems, I meant stuff that would need to be attended to or replaced soon. I have a KLR, which everyone recommends replacing the balancer tensioner lever, as well as checking for a deep hole drilled too far into the engine case. I took care of them both. Also some of the '08 KLR's are known to be oil burners, using an excessive amount of engine oil at high revs. I have yet to notice this issue on my KLR, though I did preemtively install a 16T sprocket to keep the revs lower on highway. I am hoping this will help to stave off any oil burning issues. Things like that are what I was looking for. I thought 2001 was the first year of production, so maybe the later years they had made improvements over the earlier models if'n they had mistakes. I read the first year didn't have ABS as an option. I don't mind searching out a certain spark plug, or 50K maintenance. The bike I was looking at was being sold by a dealer, and had less than 1000 miles. I have a KLR now, so I don't think a GSD would be any less capable off road, and maybe better on road. Does the GSD need premium fuel? I noticed that the compression ratio was quite high, so I am curious about that. So, whats irritating, besides the plastic around the guages and lights not fitting up well? What is bothersome? I do most of my own maintenance myself, removing plastic panels and such is part of the therapy of working on your own.

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Old 04-11-2012, 05:51 AM   #7853
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My experience regarding forks...

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If you reserch front fork failures of these bikes you will find the same couple of pictures posted over and over. Almost 100% of these failures were caused by crashes or abuse. If you don't plan on jumping your F650 the older forks are fine. My wifes 2002 F650 dakar had the early forks, and 10 years later the front wheel has yet to come off. If you want to do serious off road stuff you''ll want to upgrade to some Yamaha forks anyway. I wouldn't shy away from any early bike if the condition was good and the price was right. That being said all things being equal (price avalabulity) I would pick a newer model.
The earlier style forks on my 2003 Dakar were fine for the first 72.000 miles, then I got rear-ended and the bike was propelled into the woods as a result of the collision. The axle boss on the right fork leg broke off at the axle.

When I put the bike back to roadworthyness earlier this year the first thing I did was the YZ conversion. Besides, the Yamaha forks are sooooooo much better in every way, and I haven't even had them properly revalved yet! Already I've had a situation - running over a 50-pound dog that came out of nowhere the first day I rode the bike with the new forks - where I'm certain I would've gone down if the stock forks had still been on the bike. But with the extra 4" of travel in the YZ forks I stayed in control of the bike.

Personally, I wouldn't ever trust the Showa forks again.

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Old 04-11-2012, 10:14 AM   #7854
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Already I've had a situation - running over a 50-pound dog that came out of nowhere the first day I rode the bike with the new forks
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Old 04-11-2012, 12:24 PM   #7855
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Anyone ever had a problem with the Oil Tank leaking ( 2001 Dakar). I have taken it off and replaced the hoses, all three and still have a slight drip coming from the vent hose ( the small one). I put on new clamps and hoses, but still a small oil drip there. I'm now thinking that there must be a small crack in the tank close to the vent tube where it goes into the tank. If I could see the back side of the tank when the engine is running that would help, but you just can't see behind there when the tank is in place. I have now ordered a new tank, thought about JB Weld, but it may or may not hold and I just tired of messing with it. One other question, how do you install the oil site glass in the new tank, I did order a new one of those also, because both tank and site glass have changed part numbers and the old one may or may not fit. Any input on this would be appreciated, thanks, John in Ft. Worth
Mine suddenly started leaking last year but it turnde out to be just the crush washer on the drain plug that was wearing thin/ bolt loose. Just tightened it up and it was fine (I hadn't touched the drain plug in a year prior to that and it hadn't leaked any untill it suddenly did). Had to trace the leak as it was running down the frame and had been slung a little here and there. I'd at least check teh drain bolt
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Old 04-11-2012, 12:43 PM   #7856
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Sounds like Kawasaki and their Doohickey, ever turning a blind eye. That was just what I was looking for. I may not get this Dakar, I may try to sell my KLR first and then see what is available at that time. When did they beef up the wheel mounts, was that in 2005? If I did get an '01, how much does the average YZ conversion cost? I figure I am about ready to put in $100 +/- $50 in front suspension on the KLR if I kept it, I'd like to see what I am getting into, since I have the KLR mostly set up and it suits me fine. Is the '01 able to have a centerstand mounted? I thought I read that the thread bosses weren't there except on later models. I think I am running out of questions needing answers. It's a 2001 white dakar with only 700 some miles. The dealer I called said his friend owned it and bought it for his wife, she never rode it,(duh) and more blah blah blah. I'm selling it for him, blah blah blah. I'll bet every other bike he sells was his "friends" bike too. Its almost new, execpt for sitting around for 11 years. No farkles, I don't think it has heated grips, or a powerlet or whatnot.

I sat on a Dakar at an IMS in 2003, when i was looking at Suzuki's new at the time V-strom 1000. I bought the Strom, I liked the Dakar then, but wasn't looking really for a small 1 up single. I wanted an "adventure bike" and the Suzuki was cheaper, more powerful and fit the bill. Now my wants have changed. Thanks you guys for your helpful replies.

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There have been a few forks break and it's sucked for those involved, but the large majority has never had any worries with their forks. Mine's testament that at least one pair of forks are fucking bulletproof. Except for actually taken bullets they've pretty much taken everything else and when I had them rebuilt by a suspension specialist he said he had rarely seen forklegs in better condition. This was after 50K+ km's of abuse and little maintanance.

I put a Touratech centerstand on mine, easy as, mounted on the sidewalk infront of Touratech Nordic in 5 minutes.

It's a great bike with a bulletprood Rotax engine. It's neither a dirtbike or a highway drone, but it does will take you around the world 100% stock and will let you race the Dakar with a few mods.
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Old 04-11-2012, 06:41 PM   #7857
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Does anyone have pictures of where the LED turn signal plus in? I need help.
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Old 04-11-2012, 06:53 PM   #7858
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Does anyone have pictures of where the LED turn signal plus in? I need help.
turn signals or flasher?
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Old 04-11-2012, 07:03 PM   #7859
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My new to me 03 Dakar with 31k on the clock...only 200 of the miles are mine so far. Love it.
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Old 04-11-2012, 07:04 PM   #7860
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Ok I'm done uploading. ;-)
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