The 650 Dakar Thread

[Gravel Seeker]

Originally Posted by KG6BWS

If not the defective dash...check the sensor on the rear wheel. On really humid days, or riding in the rain, my 01 starts doing the same thing until it finally just quits working. Soon as it drys out it goes back to normal. I dont remember the exact details, but it had something to do with the sensor being dirty and just basically a poor design. I dont remember if I read about it here or at F650.com, but if you do a search for it should be able to find it.

I though both the trip and the odo got data from the same place ? Personally doubt it's the rear wheel sensor, just sounds odd since one of them is correct and the other isn't.

[GrizzLee]

Originally Posted by Gravel Seeker

I though both the trip and the odo got data from the same place ? Personally doubt it's the rear wheel sensor, just sounds odd since one of them is correct and the other isn't.

I just got off the phone with BMW and their master tech mechanic. He told me that both, the odo and trip, get the data from the same place. The trip meter and the odometer should read exactly the same as it reads from the rear wheel. He did mention that there is an open TSB on the cluster on my bike, but it has to do with the wire harness mounts and not the cluster itself. He wants to look at the LED lights. He stated that it may have something to do with the circuit for the LED turn signals (as I mentioned, the previous owner put LED lights in there and they work well ... save for the dim temperature light which I see is mentioned in another thread).... or my cluster board may be bad. I didn't ask about replacement cost, but I suspect $$$$ being that it is BMW (gulp?!).

I am going to verify that the odo is reading correctly next time I get a chance to ride it. If it is wrong, then I will have to deal with it. Otherwise, I can live with a non-functional trip meter until I win the lottery or it fails completely.

I am still seeking a Dakar owners manual though.

Thanks folks. I'll post some pics and possibly a video of my son riding it. He is geting pretty good now that he has had a few lessons from the ol man. He hasn't dumped it since the 1st day. His next step is to take the Motorcycle Safety courses when he gets the chance. He did ask why the back wheel doesn't lock up when we practiced hard stopping drills. I turned the ABS off and had him try some more.He has now learned how ABS works. Hopefully by summer, we can do a big trip.

[WayneC1]

Using LED instead of conventional globes in indicators will not cause problems, The circuit for the temp lamp may need some isolation with additional circuitry but I have not looked closely at it to confirm

Re LED lamps glowing dimly, it can occur where there is leakage to earth as LED's operate on such low current compared to conventional globes. The leakage is still there whether LED or conventional lamps are used it is just that a conventional lamp does not glow until the leakage builds up to higher current

On the GS it can occur with the indicator lamp when water gets into the switch and also with the neutral lamp when dirt and oil build up around the neutral switch.

Th neutral switch leakage is solved by a small dab of silicon on the switch to seal it and the indicators by cleaning and re greasing the switch.

There can also be leakage around the dash in wet weather and I put a piece of flat plastic as a splash guard behind the dash assembly to deflect water

[Gravel Seeker]

Originally Posted by THX_337

I am still seeking a Dakar owners manual though.

Not saying you're lazy or anything, but it took me 3 seconds to google that manual
Here's one of the results

(also not admitting to be stupid since I bought the CD from BMW for about USD100,-..... that was back in 2002 so let's just say it wasn't available online then.....)

[WayneC1]

That's OK I bought 2 so does that make me doubly stupid ? (Gave the 2nd to a mechanic who owned a GS)

[Don Coyote]

Originally Posted by Gravel Seeker

Not saying you're lazy or anything, but it took me 3 seconds to google that manual
Here's one of the results

That site will help get the job done, but it's pretty klunky to use online and they require a subscription to download. I've also found it nice when tackling a completely new project on the cycle to be able to refer to instructions that are pedantically correct for my model and i have yet to find a dual spark manual online. When i'm worried about dropped parts bouncing off into the grass by the curb or a wind gust blowing crap under the valve cover, a voice in the back of my head asking "what exactly _did_ they change from the single spark" is not helping any...

[GrizzLee]

Originally Posted by Don Coyote

That site will help get the job done, but it's pretty klunky to use online and they require a subscription to download. I've also found it nice when tackling a completely new project on the cycle to be able to refer to instructions that are pedantically correct for my model and i have yet to find a dual spark manual online. When i'm worried about dropped parts bouncing off into the grass by the curb or a wind gust blowing crap under the valve cover, a voice in the back of my head asking "what exactly _did_ they change from the single spark" is not helping any...

Very true. I did find that site.. which is fantastic BTW. I do admit, I can be lazy... Guilty as charged.

I was hoping for a PDF version to carry with me on a portable device or even a hard copy. I've been told the owners manual is the same for the F650s and makes mention of the DAKr when there are diffenrences (I think I can get a copy of that). True adventures happen outside cell, and wifi service... as in my case, I travel alot in remote Canada. Never had a problem, but one never knows. I do have a similar doc for my R1200 GSA tucked away in my toolkit for emergency and a Personal Locator beacon... and Bear Spray... but not exclusively for bear protection .

BTW: Has anyone D/L the document? Can it be shared?

Thanks...

[rdalland]

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send me a PM

[Gravel Seeker]

Originally Posted by Don Coyote

That site will help get the job done, but it's pretty klunky to use online and they require a subscription to download. I've also found it nice when tackling a completely new project on the cycle to be able to refer to instructions that are pedantically correct for my model and i have yet to find a dual spark manual online. When i'm worried about dropped parts bouncing off into the grass by the curb or a wind gust blowing crap under the valve cover, a voice in the back of my head asking "what exactly _did_ they change from the single spark" is not helping any...

I hear you, still missing parts of my turn signal switch, which are in the grass somwhere .... and also, when looking at some of the fiches at Real OEM BMW (link is for my bike, but just put your VIN in instead) I sometimes see the older Funduro engine covers, but I'm looking at parts for my bike....

I didn't actually look at the site I linked to, but I've found the manual online before pretty easily.

[Gravel Seeker]

You have the Haynes book ofcourse: http://www.haynes.com/products/productID/549

And the BMW CD in .pdf: http://www.thewatermargin.com/html/F...S%20Manual.htm Click the link and when the .pdf is open just click save a copy and you're done

[mrprez]

Any interest in a throttle body off a 2003 Dakar? I have one left over from my part out.

[isgila]

Good day mates,
I was browsing thru the net when I come across these. Is it possible?
I know there are other ways to raise the rear using shorter dog bones or longer customise shock.
But these are tunable to get the ideal height which defer from individual riders.
So pls help me to consult wif your suspension gurus and keep us up to date.
Thanks

Btw these are the rear shock bottom clevis with different size shims.

[GrizzLee]

Originally Posted by Gravel Seeker

You have the Haynes book ofcourse: http://www.haynes.com/products/productID/549

And the BMW CD in .pdf: http://www.thewatermargin.com/html/F...S%20Manual.htm Click the link and when the .pdf is open just click save a copy and you're done

Thanks,

I found this as well.
http://home.otc-mc.org/~197/mc/F650GS_EU.pdf

Looks to be the same...

[Gravel Seeker]

Originally Posted by isgila

Good day mates,
I was browsing thru the net when I come across these. Is it possible?
I know there are other ways to raise the rear using shorter dog bones or longer customise shock.
But these are tunable to get the ideal height which defer from individual riders.
So pls help me to consult wif your suspension gurus and keep us up to date.
Thanks

Btw these are the rear shock bottom clevis with different size shims.

Got a link for those ?

[Gravel Seeker]

Originally Posted by THX_337

Thanks,

I found this as well.
http://home.otc-mc.org/~197/mc/F650GS_EU.pdf

Looks to be the same...

Hehe, yeah, that's the one I downloaded a while back, but I couldn't for the life of me find that link to post here the other day.