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Old 08-04-2013, 04:31 PM   #3106
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New bike for Kiersten, I need to make a bike rack for the new GS one of this days..
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Old 08-04-2013, 08:41 PM   #3107
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Looks like Specialized is getting in on the FatBike craze:

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A little surprised it took them this long...
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Old 08-04-2013, 08:56 PM   #3108
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My Yeti SB95c and Dirtbro's Yet SB66.

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Old 08-04-2013, 09:25 PM   #3109
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Old 08-04-2013, 10:14 PM   #3110
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Yip, going to free the crank up and go looking for tyres I've been called a big girl before, thought I'd ride an appropriate bike.

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Old 08-04-2013, 11:12 PM   #3111
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quick question

what bottom bracket tool do I need to get for this?

18-spline

roughly 24mm

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Old 08-05-2013, 02:03 AM   #3112
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For a square taper bb? That's so normal, I don't even know what model the puller would be. Good rule of thumb, take a washer and your crank arm fixing bolt and fix the tool to the bb cup so it doesn't slip off.

What's the frame? Smooth ti welds to me say '80s Merlin or maybe Spectrum?
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Old 08-05-2013, 02:34 AM   #3113
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what bottom bracket tool do I need to get for this?

18-spline

roughly 24mm
18 spline = Phil Wood? Try: http://www.cambriabike.com/shopexd.a...m=041604000100
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Old 08-05-2013, 02:55 AM   #3114
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Didn't think of that, but I've never seen a black Phil cup (not saying it's never been done, though).
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Old 08-05-2013, 05:31 AM   #3115
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That's probably on target. It wouldn't fit my shimano tool, so I knew it was oddball. The guy's got Ti everything on this bike. I'm guessing he's got a Phil Wood Ti spindle.

It's a Spectrum for sure. The most god-awfully-neglected Spectrum I've ever seen. Well...the *only* spectrum I've ever seen, but likely the most neglected one TK's ever spec'd. Going over it cog by cog to clean it up. re-pack the grease, etc.

I don't live all that far from TK's old shop. I should see if I can get in touch with him and check out the history of this thing.
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Old 08-05-2013, 05:44 AM   #3116
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That's no Phil BB. That's a standard Shimano BB. Get the Shimano BB tool from Park and go to town.

Turn towards the front of the bike (on both sides) to get it off.

Once you get it off, you should be able to read the #s on the shell. Should say something like '68mm x 122.5mm' or similar. Your choices are 68mm or 73mm then spindle length. If the BB doesn't say, you'll have to measure end-to-end to find out. It'll be 118mm, 122.5mm, or 127.5 if that came off a triple.

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Old 08-05-2013, 06:04 AM   #3117
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Old 08-05-2013, 06:05 AM   #3118
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That's no Phil BB. That's a standard Shimano BB. Get the Shimano BB tool from Park and go to town.

Turn towards the front of the bike (on both sides) to get it off.

Once you get it off, you should be able to read the #s on the shell. Should say something like '68mm x 122.5mm' or similar. Your choices are 68mm or 73mm then spindle length. If the BB doesn't say, you'll have to measure end-to-end to find out. It'll be 118mm, 122.5mm, or 127.5 if that came off a triple.

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That's what got me confused. BBT-32, BBT-22, and the old BBT-2 are 20-spline. It's definitely not a 12-spline campy. I started running out of ideas, so I took a pic.
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Old 08-05-2013, 09:00 AM   #3119
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What's the brand and vintage of the parts? That may help.

No drive side fixed cup... don't see that a lot. Did you check Sheldon Brown?

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/t...ombracket.html

Phil Wood is 18 spline (and I counted the number on mine), not much else.

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Old 08-05-2013, 10:31 AM   #3120
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What's the brand and vintage of the parts? That may help.

No drive side fixed cup... don't see that a lot. Did you check Sheldon Brown?
Sheldon sorta corroborates the theory that it's a blackened phil wood. So would the fact that the drive side cup floats, since that's also characteristic phil inboard bbs.

I'm like 90% sure it's phil. Regardless, I'm getting their extractor, since it is the only 18-spline option I see. Even I have to modify the extractor witha cut-off wheel, I'm pretty sure I'll be able to take it off and get a look-see without having to resort to destructive measures (on the Bb).

Everything was filthy when I started to take it down, with a "frosting" of what I'll assume is some sort of salt compound and old lube over the entire drivetrain...evidence that it sat a good long time in a dank concrete storage area. It wouldn't surprise me if a thorough scrubbing revealed a normal-looking phil bb cup.

Other components are old maybe mid-90's 8-speed dura-ace pretty much throughout, Morati cranks (!). I was casing out the likelihood of me being able to outfit the bike more for hill climbing and touring, and noted it was an RD7402 short-cage in the back, so a bit limiting on the range of take-up offered by the derailleur. I bet it shifts pretty snappy though. RD7402...hasn't been made since '96, according to the references.

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