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Old 08-20-2013, 06:20 AM   #3331
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The bike comes with a double crank. I need to buy shifters and would like to swap to a triple crank in the future, but plan to ride with the double for a bit. Want to know if the triple shifter will work with the double crankset.

I'm thinking the "throw" on the triple shifter might be too "short" to use it for a double crankset. (ie 1-2 on a double shifter has a longer "throw" than the 1-2 on a triple shifter)
buy the triple now if thats the way you wanna go
set it up on the 2-3 throw works better on a double crank
lower end groupos are mostly 3 lh option only even if the bike comes specced double chainring
but triples are kinda out now unless you love big hills
compact size double is better ratios and less complicated than triple
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Old 08-20-2013, 09:56 AM   #3332
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Ugh. Hed freehub seems to have nearly locked up on the way into work this morning. It'll spin free-ish, but not until it dumps some chain on the chainstay while taking slack out of the rear derailleur.

This goes beyond my 'fiddle with this barrel until the shifts are smooth and I don't hear clicking' level of bike maintenance. Before I mounted the cassette, I saw what I thought was a grease hole in the freehub. Will going to town with WD-40 to wash the old stuff out and hitting it with new grease/oil work?

I've got an email sent off to Hed to ask, but figured you all might have a quicker turn-around.

Dang. This was supposed to be in the Bicycling thread. I'll repost over there.

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Old 08-20-2013, 09:58 AM   #3333
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buy the triple now if thats the way you wanna go
set it up on the 2-3 throw works better on a double crank
lower end groupos are mostly 3 lh option only even if the bike comes specced double chainring
but triples are kinda out now unless you love big hills
compact size double is better ratios and less complicated than triple


Triples seem to be going the way of the dodo. That front derailleur is just too fiddly.

A compact with a 28 or 30 tooth cog on the rear cassette will get you just about there unless you're pulling a load or you have to head up major climbs on a regular basis. (>15%)
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Old 08-20-2013, 12:04 PM   #3334
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Triples seem to be going the way of the dodo. That front derailleur is just too fiddly.

A compact with a 28 or 30 tooth cog on the rear cassette will get you just about there unless you're pulling a load or you have to head up major climbs on a regular basis. (>15%)
A I like my mtb to climblike a goat. 2x does shift nice. But gain ratio trumps trimming if sheer functionality is the measure of your mtb
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Old 08-20-2013, 12:21 PM   #3335
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A I like my mtb to climblike a goat. 2x does shift nice. But gain ratio trumps trimming if sheer functionality is the measure of your mtb
MTB? Oops. Thought we were talking roadies.

Aren't MTBs heading into 1x11 territory now to get rid of any front der?
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Old 08-20-2013, 12:48 PM   #3336
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MTB? Oops. Thought we were talking roadies.

Aren't MTBs heading into 1x11 territory now to get rid of any front der?
Yep...if you get to ride a lift up to the top of the mtn, 1x11 is a great way to go. Alot less probability of dropping your chain.
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Old 08-20-2013, 12:53 PM   #3337
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MTB? Oops. Thought we were talking roadies.

Aren't MTBs heading into 1x11 territory now to get rid of any front der?
shit i have been running a 1x9 MTB since 2008. 36t front with 11-32 cassette. Simple and plenty of gearing for the hills of WV. a granny ring is useless around here.
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Old 08-20-2013, 01:16 PM   #3338
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MTB? Oops. Thought we were talking roadies.

Aren't MTBs heading into 1x11 territory now to get rid of any front der?
Oops, for me... I bet he *was* talking road, not mtb, since he mentioned sti shifters. Yeah...3x roadies are pretty much getting into loaded touring territory.
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Old 08-20-2013, 03:05 PM   #3339
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My 2012 Felt Team 9 came with 2x10
Changed it to 3x9.
For me it gives a better spread of gears and more speed - which for where and what I ride is good. With my non standard chain ring teeth numbers I still get a close equivlient to a 2x10 but then when we hit the more open trails, road, tracks, I can go up to the big ring and put some gap in them
I also ride with roadies a fair bit
tailor what you have to the kinda of riding you do.

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Old 08-20-2013, 03:57 PM   #3340
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2x10speed?!? I can only afford ONE speed!!



And my mechanic has no clue what he's doing!
Very cool bike. I'm working on my second single speed project bike, posted my first build earlier on this thread. The second is also a budget bike but an over sized seat post jammed into the seat tube is giving me fits. It just doesn't want to be removed. I'm at the sawzal point trying to get the seat post out as in cutting down the inside of the seat post and try removing it in sections. Wish me luck.
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Old 08-20-2013, 04:21 PM   #3341
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Very cool bike. I'm working on my second single speed project bike, posted my first build earlier on this thread. The second is also a budget bike but an over sized seat post jammed into the seat tube is giving me fits. It just doesn't want to be removed. I'm at the sawzal point trying to get the seat post out as in cutting down the inside of the seat post and try removing it in sections. Wish me luck.
Youch... would a star nut fit down there? With a star nut, a long screw, and a few washers, You could fashion a slide puller, and try to hammer that fucker out with something heavy striking the washers.




You could also dremel out three holes in the seat post and stick in a *real* slide puller reverse-jaw tool too.



Apply some serious impact.



I know it's insane, but I really like my singlespeed. :) I've no use for it except for shits n giggles, and getting a good workout in.

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Old 08-20-2013, 09:23 PM   #3342
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MTB? Oops. Thought we were talking roadies.

Aren't MTBs heading into 1x11 territory now to get rid of any front der?

Yeah starting to, some of them, however, the special chain and $350 cassettes are a pretty big turn off for me.

As it is I rarely really use the granny ring, and when I do its on the small end of the casset, if I must I can run a 2x9 or even 2.8 and just deal with the front derailer.....its always the rear that gives me issues on my bike anyway.
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Old 08-21-2013, 06:24 AM   #3343
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That is really nice.

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Is this bike worth $800? My friend thinks so.








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Old 08-21-2013, 03:42 PM   #3344
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Question, can you run a double crank with Shimano STI 3x10 shifters or is the "throw" different (shorter, to be precise) with a triple front shifter?

The bike I'm building has a double, but I'd like the option to put a triple on there, wondering if I can get the 3x10 shifters or am I stuck with the 2x10.

Hmmmm.
I don't know about the road world(if you're dealing with road components) but I have a Shimano XT MTB shifter and it has a toggle on the bottom letting you choose between 2 or 3 chain rings. The indexing(throw) is the exact same. Might be worth looking into or do what driveshaft said. I built up a MTB and wasn't sure what I was going to run and wanted options so I went with that shifter. I currently run 1x10(11-34/34); works well for this area. My crank is a triple so I have the option of running 1, 2 or 3 x 10.

And since this is a "show us" thread here's a crappy picture of the shifter not on the bike.

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Old 08-21-2013, 09:09 PM   #3345
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not sure what language you're referring to, or what you might have read about what they're doing now, but i can assure you that people have been known to pop the seals out of those bearings with an Xacto knife to refresh the grease in them. "maintenance free" doesn't necessarily mean "unmaintainable".

nowadays, i just replace the whole bearing when they become tired (and they do). on the FSA/C hubs, it's simple. on the BBs, not so much... but that's not as common and Phil's nearby, so that simplifies things for me.


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I think I may have mis-remembered language from their hub products wrt serviceability. Their new bb bearings sport double-labyrinth seals, which would imply maintenance free.
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