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Old 10-16-2013, 04:35 PM   #3601
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IIRC those bars were on one of Josh Ogles bikes. I think his brand was Jericho and Jason welded them all up.
Yeah I got them from Josh, we did some horsetrading from time to time when his shop was open...
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Is that your Ti Phoenix? I had serial no 11 from the first year Steve made them. Sold it around 1998 and wish I hadn't.
Oh Man, I will never sell that bike, Mine is one of the last ones Steve made, but still rides like a dream, I don't really know what makes them so wonderful, same with the Yo Eddy's (I sold two of them and I still kick my self in the balls every time I think about it)
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Old 10-16-2013, 06:01 PM   #3602
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If I may...some of my own.



Ricky's dropouts
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Old 10-16-2013, 06:16 PM   #3603
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I do, but just casual stuff. It has a quick turn to it, which I like.

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Awesome! Do you ride it on any trails? Thinking this thing would rock out there with some knobbies.
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Old 10-16-2013, 07:35 PM   #3604
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Am I the only one that is a sucker for some super sweet ass raw welds?
are these from the man behind "Jones" bikes?

As for the minty green paint, please stop, the flashbacks are killing me
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Old 10-16-2013, 07:39 PM   #3605
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are these from the man behind "Jones" bikes?
No but Jeff Jones is really good too and his bikes are master pieces but also extremely expensive..
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Old 10-17-2013, 06:11 AM   #3606
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I didn't know Jason was in Portland now. I'll have to look him up.

If I may...some of my own.



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How'd you learn to weld titanium?
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Old 10-17-2013, 06:55 AM   #3607
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How'd you learn to weld titanium?
This dude has some mad skills HERE, I can't wait for the day to be able to pop down a nice hunk on a frame like this.

About the fab HERE
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Old 10-17-2013, 07:00 AM   #3608
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Oh, I'm not disputing that. That is some gorgeous metal work. All I wanna know is how he learned to weld titanium.
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Old 10-17-2013, 04:45 PM   #3609
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Oh, I'm not disputing that. That is some gorgeous metal work. All I wanna know is how he learned to weld titanium.
My welding is self-taught. Lots of trial and error, some internet reading (it's actually quite hard to find good information about welding thin wall tubing online). I'm still not as good as I'd like to be, but I can weld a ti bike frame up with pretty much ZERO color these days. I usually don't have to do any post-weld finishing at all; a fact I'm quite proud of even though most potential customers wouldn't understand why that's important.

I've taught some one on one frame building classes on my own and I currently teach frame building (steel TIG, ti TIG and brazing) at UBI in Portland as well as teaching the steel TIG seminars.
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Old 10-17-2013, 07:42 PM   #3610
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Make it stop!

I scan my local Craigslist daily for cool bikes, this one showed up, new in box $350 or best offer. I low balled at $150 fully expecting to get blown off and the college kid who won this in a raffle texted back and excepted my offer.

Picked up this 29er Felt/New Belgium Brewery collaboration this afternoon, assembled, and off to the liquor store to fill it up with some tasty brew.

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Old 10-17-2013, 07:46 PM   #3611
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I've taught some one on one frame building classes on my own and I currently teach frame building (steel TIG, ti TIG and brazing) at UBI in Portland as well as teaching the steel TIG seminars.
YOU'RE THAT GUY! I almost came out there for that class.
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Old 10-17-2013, 07:52 PM   #3612
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My welding is self-taught. Lots of trial and error, some internet reading (it's actually quite hard to find good information about welding thin wall tubing online). I'm still not as good as I'd like to be, but I can weld a ti bike frame up with pretty much ZERO color these days. I usually don't have to do any post-weld finishing at all; a fact I'm quite proud of even though most potential customers wouldn't understand why that's important.

I've taught some one on one frame building classes on my own and I currently teach frame building (steel TIG, ti TIG and brazing) at UBI in Portland as well as teaching the steel TIG seminars.
Even a light straw color in the weld area is something that should be dealt with. It is a brittle oxide layer that can crack and go through the metal. Easily brushed off with scotchbrite.

Yours looks uber clean!
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Old 10-17-2013, 07:55 PM   #3613
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YOU'RE THAT GUY! I almost came out there for that class.
I guess I am. They're good classes. I've only been with UBI since January, but almost everyone who comes through has had a great time and leaves happy and fulfilled. Almost everyone who's there REALLY wants to be there so it makes for a cooperative learning environment.

In keeping with the nature of the thread, I suppose I ought to show a bicycle.

This one's not mine, it's Josephs personal bike but it's bonkers and since I know how much work went into it, I have an even greater appreciation for it. Joseph is a fellow instructor at UBI and one of his creations is the only non-Vertigo bike in my household.

Stainless Steel Touring Bike
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Old 10-17-2013, 08:00 PM   #3614
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This one's not mine, it's Josephs personal bike but it's bonkers and since I know how much work went into it, I have an even greater appreciation for it. Joseph is a fellow instructor at UBI and one of his creations is the only non-Vertigo bike in my household.

Stainless Steel Touring Bike
Joseph Ahearne is the shit I wasn't aware he was teaching at UBI.

I took some classes there back in 2000, in Ashland. Ron, Jim, and Mike were my teachers. It was a great time and always recommend it to people. Price has gone up a bit since my time, but still is worth it in my mind.
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Old 10-17-2013, 08:00 PM   #3615
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Even a light straw color in the weld area is something that should be dealt with. It is a brittle oxide layer that can crack and go through the metal. Easily brushed off with scotchbrite.

Yours looks uber clean!
Yep, straw and light brown are generally acceptable and most ti bike makers will either scotchbrite or bead blast it all away. Most builders get some brown or even a little light blue in the HAZ just at the edges of the argon column, that's OK too so long as it's dealt with.

Call it lazy, efficient or whatever else but IMO the best finish is one that's easy for customers to keep looking good. For me that's scotch brite BUT it's a pain in the nuts to finish the frames once they're welded and to keep the scratch marks all going around the circumference of the tubes right at the joints. I'd rather just weld it clean and be done with it. The purpose is two fold. I do less work (not much since the finishing is all done ahead of time) and I get to show off a bit, educate some people and hope that the "non-finishing" becomes a recognizable feature of sorts.
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