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Old 10-17-2013, 08:05 PM   #3616
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Joseph Ahearne is the shit I wasn't aware he was teaching at UBI.

I took some classes there back in 2000, in Ashland. Ron, Jim, and Mike were my teachers. It was a great time and always recommend it to people. Price has gone up a bit since my time, but still is worth it in my mind.
Yeah, Joseph is great. We do the brazing classes together and I have a lot of respect for his abilities. We're total opposites...I'm type A about everything trying to get clearances and lengths down to 0.001" and he's more blacksmith and willing to beat metal into submission. It's a good mix and we've learned a lot from each other.

There's a TIG steel class starting on Monday and Ron, Mike and I will be teaching it. Jim comes about twice a year for the Ti classes and has become one of my favorite people in the bike industry.

here's another one...a Baum out of Australia. These guys put together an amazing total package and I'd love to have one.

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Old 10-17-2013, 08:10 PM   #3617
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Jim... has become one of my favorite people in the bike industry.
Yep, he's great. I'd like to sit down with a bottle of scotch with that guy.
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Old 10-17-2013, 08:11 PM   #3618
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here's another one...a Baum out of Australia. These guys put together an amazing total package and I'd love to have one.

GTB, Blue Sky, Venom Green, Cubano
Have you ever seeing a Pegoretti in person, amazing oversize and super responsive steel frames and I'm not even into road bikes, plus the paint jobs are super fun too..
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Old 10-17-2013, 08:11 PM   #3619
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And another one that's not mine. Igleheart, moved to Portland a couple of years ago and shares a shop with Joseph Ahearne. He's the nicest guy ever and has been a part of countless brands out east. Other than the fact that their creator is just an incredible human being, the best thing about his bikes are the simplicity and execution.

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Old 10-17-2013, 08:14 PM   #3620
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Have you ever seeing a Pegoretti in person, amazing oversize and super responsive steel frames and I'm not even into road bikes, plus the paint jobs are super fun too..
I used to own a Pegoretti Fina Estampa. The construction was flawless but I have to admit, the ride was totally underwhelming. To be fair, it's an aluminum bike and I kind of bought into the KoolAid that surrounds it "it doesn't ride like aluminum", "it has the snappiness of steel". It definitely rode like aluminum but was very easy to handle, very predictable just harsh.
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Old 10-17-2013, 08:23 PM   #3621
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last few and then I'd better go do something productive.

can you tell that I like the bikes more for the people behind them than the bikes themselves?

Steve Potts. Nicest guy on the planet. Wicked smart. Good at everything. I've owned two of his bikes in the past and wish I still had them.

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Rody of Groovy. Formerly with Grove Innovations. Also crazy smart, creative and extremely capable. He works harder than anyone I've ever met. Full time fire fighter, race organizer and frame builder.

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Old 10-17-2013, 08:43 PM   #3622
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I used to own a Pegoretti Fina Estampa. The construction was flawless but I have to admit, the ride was totally underwhelming. To be fair, it's an aluminum bike and I kind of bought into the KoolAid that surrounds it "it doesn't ride like aluminum", "it has the snappiness of steel". It definitely rode like aluminum but was very easy to handle, very predictable just harsh.
NOT like i will ever have the money to buy one, but i will only buy steel from him, I rode one of the Orange ones (don't remember the name) the one with the internally reinforce (connect it) down tube and I like it very much (6.2" 235pounds)
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Old 10-17-2013, 08:46 PM   #3623
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Yep, he's great. I'd like to sit down with a bottle of scotch with that guy.

you sir, would have an empty bottle of scotch in no time at all.
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Old 10-17-2013, 08:49 PM   #3624
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last few and then I'd better go do something productive.

can you tell that I like the bikes more for the people behind them than the bikes themselves?

Steve Potts. Nicest guy on the planet. Wicked smart. Good at everything. I've owned two of his bikes in the past and wish I still had them.

moo-otts 001
Yeah I meet Steve a few times he is so chill, but you can tell his brain is going a million miles a hour..

I also like Joe Breeze very much, such a cool nice warm guy

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Rody of Groovy. Formerly with Grove Innovations. Also crazy smart, creative and extremely capable. He works harder than anyone I've ever met. Full time fire fighter, race organizer and frame builder.

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I have never seeing one in person but I have seeing a few over the net, no idea he work so much..

I really enjoy old school hand painted bikes, well new school to I guess..
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Old 10-18-2013, 03:55 AM   #3625
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here's another one...a Baum out of Australia. These guys put together an amazing total package and I'd love to have one.

GTB, Blue Sky, Venom Green, Cubano
I love them. Built in my home town of Geelong in Victoria. My dad did a factory tour about 2 months ago and loved it.
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Old 10-18-2013, 07:05 AM   #3626
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I used to own a Pegoretti Fina Estampa. The construction was flawless but I have to admit, the ride was totally underwhelming. To be fair, it's an aluminum bike and I kind of bought into the KoolAid that surrounds it "it doesn't ride like aluminum", "it has the snappiness of steel". It definitely rode like aluminum but was very easy to handle, very predictable just harsh.
I've always been curious...I've always had the impression that much of this stuff is craft-oriented. Is it pretty much left up to the fabricator to figure out by experience/experiment the specifics about weld strength, rigidity, ride quality, etc, based on what their collective skills/techniques can accomplish? How much effort is made to try to estimate/engineer it first? Or even afterwards?

It's pretty much "let's try it and have someone put it through its paces," right?
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Old 10-18-2013, 07:53 AM   #3627
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The only ones I know of are NOS on ebay.....

Most of the new ones suck.
agreed. i'm still hoping to find that exception.
i don't mind the fact that i might chew through them faster than what i'm used to with what i'd been using, i just don't like the places they leave me when they fail.


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Have you thought about a rebuild for the Sachs?

yeah, but the last one i had is long gone, after a good long hard service.
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Old 10-18-2013, 07:58 AM   #3628
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dang, Andrew; almost your size, too.



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Stainless Steel Touring Bike
possibly too tall, even for you?
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Old 10-18-2013, 08:01 AM   #3629
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i liked Pegorettis paint (almost as much as Land Sharks), but got kinda' turned off by them in general when i saw one in a local builders shop without paint on it; some of the things that were done to make the lugs "pretty" just seemed cheesy to me.


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Old 10-18-2013, 10:29 AM   #3630
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No but Jeff Jones is really good too and his bikes are master pieces but also extremely expensive..
Jones!



I was just measuring out cables last week.
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