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Old 03-05-2012, 06:27 AM   #841
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If I remember right, my standard 45 ACP load is 5 grains of Bullseye and a 230 grain round nose lead bullet. Target load. Its been a while since I loaded any.

I also have the Lee turret press, the three hole model. I keep dies on turrets ready to go so all I have to do to switch setups is pop in a turret and a shell holder and I'm good to go.



The basic Lee single stage press is around $30.

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Old 03-05-2012, 06:32 AM   #842
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That's a pretty light "target" load, probably shoots very accurately. The velocity is going to be in the 700 - 750 fps range, I suspect. It may or may not cycle the action, depends on the gun, the recoil spring, etc. It would certainly be safe.
I should have mentioned that he said I may have to cut or replace the recoil(?) spring under the barrel. I would prefer not to cut it.
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Old 03-05-2012, 06:33 AM   #843
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If I remember right, my standard 45 ACP load is 5 grains of Bullseye and a 230 grain round nose lead bullet. Target load. Its been a while since I loaded any.

I also have the Lee turret press, the three hole model. I keep dies on turrets ready to go so all I have to do to switch setups is pop in a turret and a shell holder and I'm good to go.



The basic Lee single stage press is around $30.

I was looking at those earlier this morning. That's probably the direction I'll go.
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Old 03-05-2012, 07:36 AM   #844
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Anyone have trouble shooting lead bullets out of a semi like a 1911?

I've been waiting to get a .45lc of some sort so I can reload for cheap, but it'd be nice to do .45acp for cheap as well.
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Old 03-05-2012, 08:36 AM   #845
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As long as the 45 has a standard cut rifling barrel it will handle lead bullets just fine. It's the polygonal rifling like the Glock barrels that have a hard time with lead bullets. They tend to skid down the barrel leading to an excess of lead deposits in the barrel. I shot thousands of lead slugs from my 45 acp when shooting competition. Same for my 38/357 using mild to mid range loads. Heavy magnum loads were jacketed.

For load recipes, check out the powder manufacturer web site. You can get the most current data from them if you do not have a manual of your own. Otherwise never rely on a forum for load data, always look it up from a reputable source to maintain safe loads. I'm not saying this is not reputable forum but it ain't no load data source from folks who do this for a living. A simple typo can be rather ungood should you follow it.

Folks starting out in reloading should buy a current reloading manual along with the press and supplies. Several manuals are a good way to cross check loads in common calibers.
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Old 03-05-2012, 08:51 AM   #846
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Anyone have trouble shooting lead bullets out of a semi like a 1911?

I've been waiting to get a .45lc of some sort so I can reload for cheap, but it'd be nice to do .45acp for cheap as well.
I have the 4 hole model...it is pretty nice and have used it for hand gun and rifle cartridges...biggest stuff I have done is 7.5 french, 7.62 russian 3006, 303 brit...as well as pistol.

Only problem I have had is sometimes the over all length of the finished round is too long (rifle only) for the turret to turn...you have to reach in there...but no biggie.

I am also on the fence on both of their powder drop deals...the auto disc thingy works pretty well, but you don't get the adjustments like I would like....their powder drop works well, but seems to get gritty with some powders.

Over all tho for the price of it and how well it works I love it. Only thing that is a real downer for me now is the case trimming...after I get it powered I will be set...makes my arm cramp up turning that little handle.
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Old 03-05-2012, 08:55 AM   #847
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I should have mentioned that he said I may have to cut or replace the recoil(?) spring under the barrel. I would prefer not to cut it.
If you are shooting a 1911 it's a simple matter to buy a lighter spring and swap them out depending on the ammo you are shooting. I wouldn't cut a spring, I'd buy a lighter one. If it isn't a 1911 then it might be trickier to find one, but there are probably options available. When I was shooting a lot if IPSC/USPSA matches we were constantly switching out our springs. I also know that it's a good idea to switch a spring every few thousand rounds; I think we considered 2500-3000 about max.
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Old 03-05-2012, 09:02 AM   #848
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Cool! I just noticed this large reloading thread here, and figured I'd say hi. Although I've been on a dry spell in both shooting and reloading due to time constraints, I'd like to consider myself an avid reloader on a temporary leave!

I have a Lyman six-hole turret press that I use for (semi-) precision and low volume loading. I also have a Dillon XL650 with all the options that I use for high volume loading. I reload about twenty different cartridges.

Before I took my temporary leave from the shooting sports, I would say that I was at the point where I enjoyed reloading as much, if not more, than shooting... Of course, I just had to shoot in order to create more brass to load.
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Old 03-05-2012, 09:37 AM   #849
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Anyone have trouble shooting lead bullets out of a semi like a 1911?

I've been waiting to get a .45lc of some sort so I can reload for cheap, but it'd be nice to do .45acp for cheap as well.
For blowback/recoil operated guns I don't think it's a problem. With gas operated guns I think you could cause some fouling of the gas ports with lead bullets at higher velocities.

http://www.missouribullet.com/detail...y=13&keywords=

You could be loading 45 ACP for around 13 cents a round, or less than $7 a box
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Old 03-05-2012, 09:42 AM   #850
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Anyone have trouble shooting lead bullets out of a semi like a 1911?

I've been waiting to get a .45lc of some sort so I can reload for cheap, but it'd be nice to do .45acp for cheap as well.
You might get a few more FTF malfunctions than you would with hardball FMJs, but a lot of guys I know use lead bullets, both SWCs and round-nose, in their 1911s with good results. You have to clean more because of the grease. One guy I knew used to shoot IPSC with these lead bullets. I swear he melted Crayons and used it for grease. His gun smoked like hell and stunk to high heaven when he'd shoot it. Pretty funny. I remember at the end of one match there was literally smelly grease running in small streams out of the bottom of the gun......but I think he overdid it some. I also remember that he had more than his fair share of jams.
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Old 03-05-2012, 09:53 AM   #851
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Before I took my temporary leave from the shooting sports, I would say that I was at the point where I enjoyed reloading as much, if not more, than shooting... Of course, I just had to shoot in order to create more brass to load.

You know I am the same way....for some reason I just like to do it....If you know me I am the most "toss it together" type of guy you have ever seen. You know the type....just rigg it is my motto. But not with this....and it is not because I fear of blowing myself up...I just like the entire process...by hand slow measure...I want everything perfect....I just find it relaxing.
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Old 03-05-2012, 10:05 AM   #852
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For blowback/recoil operated guns I don't think it's a problem. With gas operated guns I think you could cause some fouling of the gas ports with lead bullets at higher velocities.

http://www.missouribullet.com/detail...y=13&keywords=

You could be loading 45 ACP for around 13 cents a round, or less than $7 a box
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You might get a few more FTF malfunctions than you would with hardball FMJs, but a lot of guys I know use lead bullets, both SWCs and round-nose, in their 1911s with good results. You have to clean more because of the grease. One guy I knew used to shoot IPSC with these lead bullets. I swear he melted Crayons and used it for grease. His gun smoked like hell and stunk to high heaven when he'd shoot it. Pretty funny. I remember at the end of one match there was literally smelly grease running in small streams out of the bottom of the gun......but I think he overdid it some. I also remember that he had more than his fair share of jams.
Yeah, this would be strictly for practice and plinking.

If I'm carrying or competing, I'll use factory stuff. My main concern was the feeding. I've noticed on some of the cheap FMJ stuff that it puts a good flat dent on the side of the round when I feed it into the chamber. I assume it'd do the same to a regular lead bullet, but I didn't know if it'd be bad enough to cause constant jamming.
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Old 03-05-2012, 12:17 PM   #853
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Yeah, this would be strictly for practice and plinking.

If I'm carrying or competing, I'll use factory stuff. My main concern was the feeding. I've noticed on some of the cheap FMJ stuff that it puts a good flat dent on the side of the round when I feed it into the chamber. I assume it'd do the same to a regular lead bullet, but I didn't know if it'd be bad enough to cause constant jamming.
I don't hear many complaints about people shooting round-nosed lead bullets in .22 auto pistols. In fact, mine has more trouble feeding the copper plated hollow points I imagine that for practice, the round-nosed bullets would work fine. For competition people would probably be inclined to use the semi-wadcutters, and those I would be could have feeding issues.
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Old 03-05-2012, 12:47 PM   #854
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45 ACP works fine with round nose lead bullets. In fact, I use the same bullet in both ACP and LC. I also use lead in my Glock 22. I know, I've read all about it. I still do it without problems.
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Old 03-05-2012, 01:30 PM   #855
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I don't hear many complaints about people shooting round-nosed lead bullets in .22 auto pistols. In fact, mine has more trouble feeding the copper plated hollow points I imagine that for practice, the round-nosed bullets would work fine. For competition people would probably be inclined to use the semi-wadcutters, and those I would be could have feeding issues.
I've been shooting 200gr SWC almost exclusively for over 10 years now. About every six months or so I run a couple of magazines of my defensive ammo through the gun just to make sure there are no problems. No problem with either ammo.
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