The Rimfire Thread

[otto]

Love the Full Stock. I've got the CZ Military Trainer big fun.

[MN_Smurf]

Originally Posted by EvilGenius

Now go google the P22 bible!

Yep, make sure those trigger ears have been smoothed, otherwise they'll tear up the slide.

[red450]

Originally Posted by MN_Smurf

Yep, make sure those trigger ears have been smoothed, otherwise they'll tear up the slide.

Thanks guys, I found the P22 bible. I'll start check it out and doing the mods.

[Sauterelle]

I'm looking at these two pistols:
The Smith & Wesson M&P 22-12 and the Ruger SR22

Thoughts? Experiences?

[EvilGenius]

Originally Posted by sauterelle

i'm looking at these two pistols:
the smith & wesson m&p 22-12 and the ruger sr22

thoughts? Experiences?

sr22!

[Stromdog]

Originally Posted by Sauterelle

I'm looking at these two pistols:
The Smith & Wesson M&P 22-12 and the Ruger SR22

Thoughts? Experiences?

Just looking at the specs, there's quite a bit of difference in size and weight.

[Boondoggle]

Originally Posted by EvilGenius

sr22!

Have you drunk the Kool-Aid, and is your P22 doomed to a lonely life in the back of the safe now?

[EvilGenius]

Originally Posted by Boondoggle

Have you drunk the Kool-Aid, and is your P22 doomed to a lonely life in the back of the safe now?

I'll get which ever I have the money for really.

I like the looks and ergos of the P22, can't say the same or different for the SR until I handle one.

The biggest factor is the da/SA trigger on the SR, they're both just plinkers, but it's hard to beat that point.

[Achtung]

What is the advantage of the SR22 over the tried and true MK3? I would be hard pressed to justify the purchase of any other rimfire pistol in that price range. I mean come on and look at this thing, its sexy as hell!

[Jeffy]

Originally Posted by Sauterelle

I'm looking at these two pistols:
The Smith & Wesson M&P 22-12 and the Ruger SR22

Thoughts? Experiences?

The MP22 is more of a training pistol. It's the same size as the standard MP. The SR22 is more compact. 3/4 size. Grerat for plinking and teaching new shooters with small hands.

Originally Posted by Achtung

What is the advantage of the SR22 over the tried and true MK3? I would be hard pressed to justify the purchase of any other rimfire pistol in that price range. I mean come on and look at this thing, its sexy as hell!

A lot actually. If you're wanting a standard semi-auto, then the SR22 is the better choice. It will make the transition easier for those moving up because it's more similar to centerfire's then the MKIII. The SR22 looks to break down a lot easier then the MKIII as well. The MKIII will be more accurate though. Some people might also choose to CCW the SR22. I don't think you'd want to do that with a MKIII,

[FPGT72]

Originally Posted by Jeffy

The MP22 is more of a training pistol. It's the same size as the standard MP. The SR22 is more compact. 3/4 size. Grerat for plinking and teaching new shooters with small hands.

A lot actually. If you're wanting a standard semi-auto, then the SR22 is the better choice. It will make the transition easier for those moving up because it's more similar to centerfire's then the MKIII. The SR22 looks to break down a lot easier then the MKIII as well. The MKIII will be more accurate though. Some people might also choose to CCW the SR22. I don't think you'd want to do that with a MKIII,

If that is the only reason I will get a GSG 1911....right now that is by far the most used gun I own. Fits in the exact same holsters at my "real" 1911...everything is in the exact same place...and is almost the same weight.

I really like that gun....and the only problems I have had was feeding the crap remington ammo in it.

[Jeffy]

Originally Posted by FPGT72

If that is the only reason I will get a GSG 1911....right now that is by far the most used gun I own. Fits in the exact same holsters at my "real" 1911...everything is in the exact same place...and is almost the same weight.

I really like that gun....and the only problems I have had was feeding the crap remington ammo in it.

Well, it's not all the reasons but some of the major ones. I think the resurgence of 22LR's is two fold. First you have those who want to train but can't because it's too expensive. A clone of their main gun will allow them to train. Then you have all of the other people who aren't training but still want to shoot. For a long time, there weren't that many 22LR's out there. You basically had the Browning Buckmaster, Ruger MK3, 10/22, Marlin 39a and a few other choices. Now, the market for 22LR is pretty big with a lot more choices.

For a training gun, the only downside to some of the clones I see would be build quality and the ability to really duplicate everything on your centerfire gun. I know Kimber, for a long time has made a 22LR conversion for their 1911's. CA also makes one for their CZ-75. Actually I think both make a dedicated 22LR version as well. Sig had Kimber make 22LR conversion for many of their guns as well. P226, P229R, P229/P228, P220... Advantage Arms makes a 22LR conversion for Glock's as well.

If you're just plinking then matching the gun isn't a concern.

[EvilGenius]

Originally Posted by Jeffy

Well, it's not all the reasons but some of the major ones. I think the resurgence of 22LR's is two fold. First you have those who want to train but can't because it's too expensive. A clone of their main gun will allow them to train. Then you have all of the other people who aren't training but still want to shoot. For a long time, there weren't that many 22LR's out there. You basically had the Browning Buckmaster, Ruger MK3, 10/22, Marlin 39a and a few other choices. Now, the market for 22LR is pretty big with a lot more choices.

For a training gun, the only downside to some of the clones I see would be build quality and the ability to really duplicate everything on your centerfire gun. I know Kimber, for a long time has made a 22LR conversion for their 1911's. CA also makes one for their CZ-75. Actually I think both make a dedicated 22LR version as well. Sig had Kimber make 22LR conversion for many of their guns as well. P226, P229R, P229/P228, P220... Advantage Arms makes a 22LR conversion for Glock's as well.

If you're just plinking then matching the gun isn't a concern.

This is the reason I bought a conversion for my RIA. I'm using the same exact frame and grip of the gun I would be carrying, so all the controls are as similar as they can be.

[Achtung]

The MKIII is a bitch to break down when compared to modern centerfire pistols, I would like to say that once you get the hang of it its no big deal but I've had mine forever and it still fights me sometimes. Now my SR9 I can have cleaned in 5 minutes, but the MK III is still a better looking and firing pistol.

[McNeal]

Originally Posted by Achtung

The MKIII is a bitch to break down when compared to modern centerfire pistols, I would like to say that once you get the hang of it its no big deal but I've had mine forever and it still fights me sometimes. Now my SR9 I can have cleaned in 5 minutes, but the MK III is still a better looking and firing pistol.

The MarkIII isn't hard to break down, in fact it's down right easy. It's putting the SOB back together that's tough.

How Ruger created a pistol that's so difficult to assemble, but easy to strip apart has always amazed me.