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Old 02-07-2010, 08:28 AM   #151
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Just found this thread. I got this from Santa this year and it is my first rim fire. I just love the gun, it is a little tack driver

CZ 452 FS

One of my friends shooting it at the range

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would you mind taking some more pictures of your new rifle for the rest of us to drool over. that picture from the CZ site is beautiful, but id like to see what the average gun looks like too.
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Old 02-07-2010, 08:38 AM   #152
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would you mind taking some more pictures of your new rifle for the rest of us to drool over. that picture from the CZ site is beautiful, but id like to see what the average gun looks like too.
I will do that, The gun looks better in person than in pictures !
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Old 02-07-2010, 02:32 PM   #153
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but id like to see what the average gun looks like too.
CZ can be a little hit or miss on the wood figure, best bet is to find a shop that carries these things and see the gun in person.

The plain ones still look good, but the occasional one will be absolutely beautiful.
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Old 02-07-2010, 02:44 PM   #154
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CZ can be a little hit or miss on the wood figure, best bet is to find a shop that carries these things and see the gun in person.

The plain ones still look good, but the occasional one will be absolutely beautiful.
I think CZs are great value for money.

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Old 02-07-2010, 02:45 PM   #155
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I think CZs are great value for money.


is that one yours chewie? she sure is pretty.
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Old 02-07-2010, 02:50 PM   #156
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I think CZs are great value for money.
I absolutely agree.

I would definately save the money over Cooper or Kimber or Anschutz and go CZ. Although last time I went Ruger, because I figured I might upgrade it later on.
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Old 02-07-2010, 02:52 PM   #157
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is that one yours chewie? she sure is pretty.
.17HMR

I've taken bunnies at 130m and I'm not a very good shot [shit at estimating distances too, thank doG for cheapo ebay golf laser rangefinders ]

Cheap enough to shoot lots makes it one of my favourites.
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Old 02-07-2010, 02:55 PM   #158
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.17HMR

I've taken bunnies at 130m and I'm not a very good shot [shit at estimating distances too, thank doG for cheapo ebay golf laser rangefinders ]

Cheap enough to shoot lots makes it one of my favourites.

how do you like the .17hmr in comparison with the .22lr?
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Old 02-07-2010, 02:57 PM   #159
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I think CZs are great value for money.

How much is one of those if you don't mind me asking? And is .17 pricier ammo than .22?
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Old 02-07-2010, 02:58 PM   #160
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I absolutely agree.

I would definately save the money over Cooper or Kimber or Anschutz and go CZ. Although last time I went Ruger, because I figured I might upgrade it later on.
I have a 452 in .22LR as well, very very quiet with subsonics.
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How much is one of those if you don't mind me asking? And is .17 pricier ammo than .22?
IIRC I paid around £300 for the rifle, not including the scope, mod or bipod.

I pay about £10 / 50rds, near enough twice as much as .22LR, but our ammo[e] prices are horrible here.
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how do you like the .17hmr in comparison with the .22lr?
Very similar to shoot, the only difference really is the ammo characteristics and the lack of supersonic 'crack' when using .22 subsonics.

Flatter trajectory, more range, more kinetic energy with the .17. More chance of not scaring the pesky critters away and cheaper shooting with the .22

.17 doesn't richochet as much as the .22 - in fact, many police forces here recommend the .17HMR over the .22 as a first rifle now, because of the lack of ricochet.

I'm glad to have both but would probably opt for the .17HMR if I had to make a choice.
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Very similar to shoot, the only difference really is the ammo characteristics and the lack of supersonic 'crack' when using .22 subsonics.

Flatter trajectory, more range, more kinetic energy with the .17. More chance of not scaring the pesky critters away and cheaper shooting with the .22

.17 doesn't richochet as much as the .22 - in fact, many police forces here recommend the .17HMR over the .22 as a first rifle now, because of the lack of ricochet.

I'm glad to have both but would probably opt for the .17HMR if I had to make a choice.

thats funny. most people here recommend a .22lr or a 20ga shotgun for a first long gun.
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Old 02-07-2010, 03:20 PM   #164
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thats funny. most people here recommend a .22lr or a 20ga shotgun for a first long gun.
we're a small country, and the fact that the .17HMR disintegrates as soon as it hits anything is the key. .22LRs can be unpredictable if they bounce off something.
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I'm glad to have both but would probably opt for the .17HMR if I had to make a choice.
I would too. I'd take the .17 over my .22, .22 magnum, and .223. If I could only have one.

The .22 is great for beginners in that the ammo is cheap and if you are on a safe range ricochet is really a non-issue.
But if you are going to hunt or shoot in a field with it the .17 seems to provide much more enjoyment.

The only thing I'd say is that if you are actually trying to learn to shoot well the .17 is just too flat shooting. An accurate .22 LR with the slowest ammo that it shoots well requires much more user input to hit the target.

Fun game is to place reactive targets at different distances down field and move between them with a .22 LR.
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