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Old 10-09-2011, 07:22 AM   #3301
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Wrong.

I've go a pint of real Vermont Maple Syrup for the person who can tell me why the cows are where they are.

After all they are Vermont cows.


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I can not imagine why you would have (dozens of) pint(s) of Vermont Maple Syrup laying around...
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Old 10-09-2011, 07:10 PM   #3302
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Didn't quite make it to the Dragon






Video posted on another forum (not by me!). Rider's description of what happened below:

"coming down 'the 152 curves' on the 89 other side of jerome. i was riding way too aggressive on an unfamiliar road and not paying attention to the actual road surface.

asphalt was new so still pretty smooth/slick and the rear broke loose on downshift and came out. i was not going to get it back so i got on the front brakes as well and counter steered for the soft-er stuff. got it down to 20mph before it left the road.

at least that is the way i remember it. it happened pretty darn quick.

i regularly take corners like this at 35mph with complete confidence but all of my canyon carving experience has been on mature surfaces.

i think over-confidence and a lack of experience were primary factors in this case.


i was geared up, no injuries (just sore), moderate non-fatal damage to the bike. duct tape, a coat hanger and some redneck engineering prevented this spill from terminating a 400 mile ride for 3 people halfway in.

patched up the bike and finished the second 200 miles with no further incidents.

pics of the damage and roadside redneck engineering to follow.

OK guys, i am ready to take my lumps - fire away.
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Old 10-09-2011, 07:48 PM   #3303
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Old 10-09-2011, 08:11 PM   #3304
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Old 10-09-2011, 08:22 PM   #3305
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Video posted on another forum (not by me!). Rider's description of what happened below:

"coming down 'the 152 curves' on the 89 other side of jerome. i was riding way too aggressive on an unfamiliar road and not paying attention to the actual road surface.

asphalt was new so still pretty smooth/slick and the rear broke loose on downshift and came out. i was not going to get it back so i got on the front brakes as well and counter steered for the soft-er stuff. got it down to 20mph before it left the road.

at least that is the way i remember it. it happened pretty darn quick.

i regularly take corners like this at 35mph with complete confidence but all of my canyon carving experience has been on mature surfaces.

i think over-confidence and a lack of experience were primary factors in this case.


i was geared up, no injuries (just sore), moderate non-fatal damage to the bike. duct tape, a coat hanger and some redneck engineering prevented this spill from terminating a 400 mile ride for 3 people halfway in.

patched up the bike and finished the second 200 miles with no further incidents.

pics of the damage and roadside redneck engineering to follow.

OK guys, i am ready to take my lumps - fire away.
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Well, at least he was honest about it, rather than making up some lame excuse.
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Old 10-09-2011, 08:28 PM   #3306
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Video posted on another forum (not by me!). Rider's description of what happened below:

"coming down 'the 152 curves' on the 89 other side of jerome. i was riding way too aggressive on an unfamiliar road and not paying attention to the actual road surface.

asphalt was new so still pretty smooth/slick and the rear broke loose on downshift and came out. i was not going to get it back so i got on the front brakes as well and counter steered for the soft-er stuff. got it down to 20mph before it left the road.

at least that is the way i remember it. it happened pretty darn quick.

i regularly take corners like this at 35mph with complete confidence but all of my canyon carving experience has been on mature surfaces.

i think over-confidence and a lack of experience were primary factors in this case.


i was geared up, no injuries (just sore), moderate non-fatal damage to the bike. duct tape, a coat hanger and some redneck engineering prevented this spill from terminating a 400 mile ride for 3 people halfway in.

patched up the bike and finished the second 200 miles with no further incidents.

pics of the damage and roadside redneck engineering to follow.

OK guys, i am ready to take my lumps - fire away.
"
Wow, is it really possible to crash going that slowly?
Must be a pirate thing.
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Old 10-09-2011, 08:46 PM   #3307
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Wow, is it really possible to crash going that slowly?
Must be a pirate thing.
It's an irrational fear of front brakes. You can tell by the waggle that he locked up the tear brake as he approached the corner. By the time he "got on the front brakes as well" he was plowing dirt clods.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:01 PM   #3308
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Well, it could have been that but it coulda been the waggle was caused by catching that downshift he mentioned. I've done that (plenty of times on my Buell lol) .... of course it didn't end like that. Get back on that throttle, son . It woulda straightened back out. You coulda made that easy.


BTW. Never choose to head off the road (unless you have absolutely no other choice ...like an oncoming gravel truck taking up all of a single lane road ). We live on the road, we die in the ditch. Those guardrails/tree/culverts/signs/posts will eff you up much worse than a little rash.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:02 PM   #3309
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Wow, is it really possible to crash going that slowly?
Must be a pirate thing.
One day I came up on a sharp curve, narrow country road, pavement slanted downhill with a gravel driveway just before the apex.
I got on the brakes but slid in the washed out driveway, pumping and adjusting my turn angle I just couldn't quite make it. I slowly rode into the ditch on two wheels and came to a stop.

My target was the edge of the road where it should have been the far left and 25yds ahead, my mistake.

The ditch was 2' deep, maybe 3' wide and luckly mostly tall grass, probably slid in at about 20mph. I rode out of it BTW.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:44 PM   #3310
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Well, it could have been that but it coulda been the waggle was caused by catching that downshift he mentioned. I've done that (plenty of times on my Buell lol) .... of course it didn't end like that. Get back on that throttle, son . It woulda straightened back out. You coulda made that easy.


BTW. Never choose to head off the road (unless you have absolutely no other choice ...like an oncoming gravel truck taking up all of a single lane road ). We live on the road, we die in the ditch. Those guardrails/tree/culverts/signs/posts will eff you up much worse than a little rash.
Did you watch the video, did you hear a downshift? The motor speeds just keeps dropping steadily until it revs a touch during the crash. No downshift that I could tell.

He blamed his crash on a downshift that didn't happen and "slick" asphalt because it was new.

Atleast he finally got the right answer at the end. "i think over-confidence and a lack of experience were primary factors in this case"
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:50 PM   #3311
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lol. I watched it. Twice or thrice. I just don't have any sound on my computer after last night's lightning storm so I'm at a distinct disadvantage in my accident reconstruction. I'll have to take your word for the lack of down-shifting.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:58 PM   #3312
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Was he a stunt driver? Looks like he did it for the camera.
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Old 10-09-2011, 10:01 PM   #3313
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Did you watch the video, did you hear a downshift? The motor speeds just keeps dropping steadily until it revs a touch during the crash. No downshift that I could tell.

He blamed his crash on a downshift that didn't happen and "slick" asphalt because it was new.

Atleast he finally got the right answer at the end. "i think over-confidence and a lack of experience were primary factors in this case"
Watch the hand on the clutch, he pulls clutch then revs engine before he lets out clutch. Thats how they downshift. ??
Thats what I seen.
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Old 10-09-2011, 10:08 PM   #3314
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Watch the hand on the clutch, he pulls clutch then revs engine before he lets out clutch. Thats how they downshift. ??
Thats what I seen.
All I see is a handful of clutch and the rear is already waggin, the RPM's never stop dropping so he doesn't let the clutch out nor blip the throttle.

He panicked, grabbed the clutch, hit the rear brake and drove the bike off the road.
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Old 10-09-2011, 10:16 PM   #3315
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All I see is a handful of clutch and the rear is already waggin, the RPM's never stop dropping so he doesn't let the clutch out nor blip the throttle.

He panicked, grabbed the clutch, hit the rear brake and drove the bike off the road.
At the 3 second mark he blips the throttle after he pulls in clutch.
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