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Old 10-19-2011, 07:20 PM   #3511
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what do you all see? probably not a good sign for my skillsof observation huh...

See posts 35009 & 3512.
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Old 10-20-2011, 08:17 AM   #3512
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Amazing? My experience has been the opposite at track schools and track days. The beginners rarely crash. The so-called 'fast group' has the crashers. Fortunately, they are set up for crashing and rarely sustain real injury due to good gear and much practice at crashing.
I've always found the intermediate group to be the crash-o-rama.
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Old 10-20-2011, 09:05 AM   #3513
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I've always found the intermediate group to be the crash-o-rama.
Same. What I dislike is when the intermediate and advanced groups get lumped together in a session. What ensues is the I riders trying to keep up with the A riders, and carnage results.
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Old 10-20-2011, 09:17 AM   #3514
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Same. What I dislike is when the intermediate and advanced groups get lumped together in a session. What ensues is the I riders trying to keep up with the A riders, and carnage results.

Must vary region to region, in the NE intermediate seems to have less crashes, than Advanced. There seems to be too many in advanced that think there is a trophy, money and a pretty girl at the finish, and they make stupid and dangerous passes. This is especially true the closer you get to NYC, the urban riders all think they are Moto GP riders, because they can drag their knees on the off ramps. Beginner is pretty good too, although the dumb beginner mistakes do happen.
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Old 10-20-2011, 04:02 PM   #3515
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I've always found the intermediate group to be the crash-o-rama.
+1

The fast guys know what they're doing. They haul ass, but have been on the track a lot, know how to pass close and not cause a wreck. The beginners usually know they're slow and ride that way. Usually painfully so.

The middle group has just enough knowledge and not enough skill. I know. I fall into that category, so have spent a lot of time in B groups. I've never wrecked at a track day, but damn I've watched a lot. The last session of the day wrecks are classic. By that point, a lot of the fast guys know they're done, but the middle guys are still wanting to milk their $125 for all it's worth, even though they're physically and mentally fried.
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Old 10-20-2011, 10:13 PM   #3516
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The fast guys know what they're doing. They haul ass, but have been on the track a lot, know how to pass close and not cause a wreck. The beginners usually know they're slow and ride that way. Usually painfully so.

The middle group has just enough knowledge and not enough skill. I know. I fall into that category, so have spent a lot of time in B groups. I've never wrecked at a track day, but damn I've watched a lot. The last session of the day wrecks are classic. By that point, a lot of the fast guys know they're done, but the middle guys are still wanting to milk their $125 for all it's worth, even though they're physically and mentally fried.

Yup the last session is always the one that bites you, its got me a couple times as well.

Anymore, I'm generally packing up and sitting there with my post-track beer by then. Last time I was out I got to do the walk of shame for a buddy that went down.....on the last session. Let me tell you, pushing a bike around with no shifter and the left clip-on snapped off isn't a lot of fun.
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Old 10-21-2011, 06:22 AM   #3517
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Yup the last session is always the one that bites you, its got me a couple times as well.
I used to take my GS to the track to ride for the last few sessions. You can take it easy and still have fun.
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Old 10-21-2011, 09:43 AM   #3518
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Old 10-21-2011, 09:51 AM   #3519
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Old 10-21-2011, 10:12 AM   #3520
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Speaking of masks....
Finally, a product that answers the question "how can I protect my face from airborne debris, while still ensuring disfigurement in a crash?"
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Old 10-21-2011, 10:25 AM   #3521
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Old 10-21-2011, 10:32 AM   #3522
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Old 10-21-2011, 10:33 AM   #3523
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Finally, a product that answers the question "how can I protect my face from airborne debris, while still ensuring disfigurement in a crash?"
and "how can I look like a fucking retard....uh, I mean badass..."
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Old 10-21-2011, 10:42 AM   #3524
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Aren't those called "Gimp Masks"?

I mean like in Pulp Fiction.
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