ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Riding > The perfect line and other riding myths
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 04-12-2012, 06:10 PM   #9841
Beto
RustyGasket
 
Beto's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Location: Mrs. Sauga & Dela-Where?
Oddometer: 1,836
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phrog
"...if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit."

Originally Posted by Ogre_fl
"If it's anyone's fault for a crash... it's always the Ass Fault."
Beto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2012, 06:11 PM   #9842
Beto
RustyGasket
 
Beto's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Location: Mrs. Sauga & Dela-Where?
Oddometer: 1,836
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phrog
"...if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit."

Originally Posted by Ogre_fl
"If it's anyone's fault for a crash... it's always the Ass Fault."
Beto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2012, 06:11 PM   #9843
Beto
RustyGasket
 
Beto's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Location: Mrs. Sauga & Dela-Where?
Oddometer: 1,836
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phrog
"...if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit."

Originally Posted by Ogre_fl
"If it's anyone's fault for a crash... it's always the Ass Fault."
Beto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2012, 06:18 PM   #9844
UncleDirt
Uncivil to idiots.
 
UncleDirt's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Location: High Plains of Colorado
Oddometer: 11,273
I'll take "Things that are about to Pop Up" for $300 Alex.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beto View Post
__________________
_______________________________________________
"I'll say it again: I'll consider corporations individuals when Texas executes a board of directors." ~RandyB
WW/Snoid 2014
UncleDirt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2012, 06:20 PM   #9845
42
Bokononist
 
42's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Location: Comfort Eagle
Oddometer: 16,371
Quote:
Originally Posted by UncleDirt View Post
I'll take "Things that are about to Pop Up" for $300 Alex.

I say he saved it.
__________________
Who but they?

42 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2012, 06:31 PM   #9846
UncleDirt
Uncivil to idiots.
 
UncleDirt's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Location: High Plains of Colorado
Oddometer: 11,273
Quote:
Originally Posted by 42 View Post
I say he saved it.
Gear says yes.

But right there, the answer is in his throttle hand, what did he do? Ride it out, or let off the gas?

Could be either way. But he does have a nice drift going if it was intentional.
__________________
_______________________________________________
"I'll say it again: I'll consider corporations individuals when Texas executes a board of directors." ~RandyB
WW/Snoid 2014
UncleDirt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2012, 06:33 PM   #9847
Boon Booni
Red Clay Halo
 
Boon Booni's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Location: Richmond, Va
Oddometer: 12,998
Quote:
Originally Posted by viverrid View Post
You are entitled to your own lane, just like when I drove at the Glen I was entitled to the designated track for that event. Cutting across the chicane on a road course is a cheat, just like passing below the line on a Nascar oval, just like using the opposite lane if that's the only way you can get speed through a curve on a twisty public road.

It's like someone bragging that they can lap the track in 3:00 flat while the other guys are running 3:03, but that's only because they cut the chicane; they are NOT really 3 seconds faster. If you can run the Dragon in ____ minutes but only but cutting lanes, then no, you CAN'T really run it in that time. It's not the racing line if it's a cheat. Until such time as the Dragon is closed to the public for speed runs where you are given clearance to use both lanes, then it's a cheat and you're not really fast.

Ok, so your original point about "straitening out a twisty road" seemed to imply that it wasn't as much fun.

Now your problem is with simply using the other lane.

And some blather about "cheating".


There are places in the world, on some roads where sight lines allow a rider, if they choose, to use the whole road. If a rider chooses to use the whole road in that situation, I have no problem with it. On top of that, I don't think using the whole road, when sight lines permit, takes any of the fun out of riding.

Whether or not the above fellow on the trike has clear enough sight lines, I don't really have a difinitive answer. I feel like I remember that curve, and if it is the curve I remember, it's blind at first, but as you come around one can clearly see 2 curves ahead. If that is the case, and the rider can clearly see 2 curves ahead, I have no problem with his line.
__________________
Where the fuck...
Where the fuck is the bike?
You gotta be shitting me.
Where the fuck is the road?

Boon Booni screwed with this post 04-12-2012 at 09:51 PM
Boon Booni is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2012, 06:33 PM   #9848
Bill Harris
Confirmed Curmudgeon
 
Bill Harris's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Location: backwoods Alabama
Oddometer: 6,411
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beto View Post
They've got The Attitude down pat. She's wearing a leather vest, he's wearing a feathered boa and they're both stone deaf...

Whew, The Dragon's going to be really, really live this year...
__________________
'73 R60/5 Toaster
Luddite. Not just a philosophy, a way of life...
Bill Harris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2012, 06:50 PM   #9849
Boon Booni
Red Clay Halo
 
Boon Booni's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Location: Richmond, Va
Oddometer: 12,998
Quote:
Originally Posted by rocker59 View Post
This is purely anecdotal, and just my personal experience, but:

Back when I was first getting into riding sportsbikes here in the Ozarks, it was way too easy to cut a few corners to maintain my speed. I was more worried about being fast than being smooth.

I soon realized that as long as there were no surprises, crossing that yellow was a way to maintain my speed...

The really big problem is, though, that if you're travelling at a speed that "requires" you to cross the yellow on curves, you'll most likely be going too fast too correct and return to your own lane when you're surprised by a vehicle that "wasn't supposed to be there" because "you could see through the turn".

It's habit. If you get in the habit of using the oncoming lane, then at some point you'll have some close calls from vehicles that suddenly appear. I had one or two close calls, then quickly determined that staying on my side of the yellow was a good idea.

In the past ten years, I've attended some schools and trackdays. Now I'm faster in my lane than I ever was when cutting the corners, and my chances of a head-on collision have been cut down dramatically...
I agree, if you have to use the whole lane, and end up doing it out of habit on every turn then you are asking for trouble.
__________________
Where the fuck...
Where the fuck is the bike?
You gotta be shitting me.
Where the fuck is the road?
Boon Booni is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2012, 06:54 PM   #9850
JimVonBaden
"Cool" Aid!
 
JimVonBaden's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Location: Alexandria, VA
Oddometer: 48,527
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beto View Post
Two in the pink...

Jim

PS Beto ALWAYS brings it!
JimVonBaden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2012, 06:55 PM   #9851
enigmatic_redhabu
I really wanna be....
 
enigmatic_redhabu's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Location: Littleton, Colorado
Oddometer: 2,789
What are these things?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beto View Post



__________________
'05 Honda CRF 230F Red Pony
'03 BMW F650GS Silver Ice
'07 HD XL1200L Sportster Black Beauty
Jinny
enigmatic_redhabu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2012, 06:58 PM   #9852
BK
Electron herder
 
BK's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Location: Indiana
Oddometer: 428
Quote:
Originally Posted by enigmatic_redhabu View Post
What are these things?

Rednecks?
__________________
"Human beings are the only creatures on Earth that claim a God, and the only living things that behave like they haven't got one." - The Rum Diary
BK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2012, 07:04 PM   #9853
opaque_machete
girls wanna have fun
 
opaque_machete's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2011
Location: Far East, TN
Oddometer: 630
Quote:
Originally Posted by enigmatic_redhabu View Post
What are these things?
Ummmm, they look like a V-8 and a 6 to me.
__________________
Marjorie
'93 XT225
'05 Ninjette
May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house. -George Carlin
Two Wheel Females.com
opaque_machete is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2012, 07:05 PM   #9854
opaque_machete
girls wanna have fun
 
opaque_machete's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2011
Location: Far East, TN
Oddometer: 630
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChevalDeFer View Post
Rednecks?

__________________
Marjorie
'93 XT225
'05 Ninjette
May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house. -George Carlin
Two Wheel Females.com
opaque_machete is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2012, 07:10 PM   #9855
enigmatic_redhabu
I really wanna be....
 
enigmatic_redhabu's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Location: Littleton, Colorado
Oddometer: 2,789
Why bother a helmet?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beto View Post
__________________
'05 Honda CRF 230F Red Pony
'03 BMW F650GS Silver Ice
'07 HD XL1200L Sportster Black Beauty
Jinny
enigmatic_redhabu is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 09:26 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014