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Old 06-01-2012, 10:10 AM   #11701
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And if the fellow started going over on the no leg side with no means to even slow the fall, he's going to take a hard hit.
It's not like his leg is going to get pinned under the bike.
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Old 06-01-2012, 10:10 AM   #11702
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You mean you've never had to dab a foot other than the one you planned to put down, not ever?
i honestly cannot think of a time i have ever had to do that on the street unless i was playing "let's see how long i can hold a track stand at this light" (which i would not do if i did not have two feet, of course).

off road, though, all the time.

pittsburgh is a very hilly city, but we don't seem to have intersections where you cannot choose which foot to put down. i dunno. i guess it really can be a problem given the experiences of others. i've just somehow never managed to run into it or something.

i'd still love to be able to ask the guy in the picture what his experience has been.
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Old 06-01-2012, 10:18 AM   #11703
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I know it's happend to me not paying attention just as I come to a stop, and a wheel falls in a rut or something and pushes the bike to the unintended side, and I have to dab my right foot. Not pretty, but effective.

I agree there's a good chance it's not a big problem for the one-legged folk. They just have to be more careful.
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Old 06-01-2012, 10:24 AM   #11704
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Its their life now, they have to learn that skill and do it every time to be safe. Perhaps it is a skill of better bike control we should challenge ourselves to. I try to always stop with only right foot down but on occasion the left foot does touch. (I guess in this scenario, that would be a failure).

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Old 06-01-2012, 11:04 AM   #11705
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Whoops.. I stumbled into the Day-to-Day Physics of the Paraplegic Rider Thread.













I never knew the Dragon had a bike lane.
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Old 06-01-2012, 11:24 AM   #11706
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Unlike some, I'm just not an automatic cheerleader where disabled riders are concerned. They have my respect, and my curiousity. They're not the only ones on the road. The safety of others comes first, where the riding skills and abilities of the handicapped are concerned. Being thoughtful about such matters is not out of bounds, yinz (yunz). This is the de facto Roadcraft sub-forum, no?


Would you rather meet a rider like me on the road.

I got 2 good legs but no road skills and I always speed.
Did I mention I am not too bright also.

BTW how is your riding skills?
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Old 06-01-2012, 11:34 AM   #11707
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well, i rode over 10,000 miles in the last year. i ride to and from work every day in a city...and everywhere else i ever go. i ride nasty single track just about every weekend (there i have to put both feet down a lot...heck, i put the bike down a lot. lol.). race hare scrambles from time to time (more feet and bike down).

i know it's not a lot compared to some people, but i'm far from sheltered.

how can you not control which way your bike leans when you stop on the street? that's basic motorcycling 101. if it's because you find yourself having to do emergency stops very often, i would suggest you need to consider altering your riding style. i would also suggest that, even in an emergency stop, you should be able to control that.

where are these off camber streets one has to stop on..or, heck, even ride on (and why wasn't the engineer who designed them fired)?

i wish we could ask that guy with one leg how many miles he has logged like that...and how many times he fell over because of his missing leg. i bet the answer are "very many" and "never".
I try and just let the bike fall where ever it's leaning, then worry about picking it up when the light turns green. Works great.

That said, I seem to like not putting a foot down, see how long I can balance while sitting still. It usually results in me putting one foot or the other down before the light turns, so I guess I'm the person that doesn't know which foot is going down?
I have gotten yelled at by a person for not putting my foot down. :)
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Old 06-01-2012, 11:38 AM   #11708
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I have gotten yelled at by a person for not putting my foot down. :)
This...and also have folks tell me it is dangerous to pick my feet up so quickly when I pull away.
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Old 06-01-2012, 11:49 AM   #11709
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how can you not control which way your bike leans when you stop on the street? that's basic motorcycling 101.
Can you describe the technique for this? This was never explained in the brc
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Old 06-01-2012, 11:54 AM   #11710
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This...and also have folks tell me it is dangerous to pick my feet up so quickly when I pull away.

Uh oh, I'm guilty of this! You mean I'm supposed to keep the "outriggers" out for at least 40 feet after starting forward motion? I've been doing it wrong the entire time?!?






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Old 06-01-2012, 12:04 PM   #11711
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Can you describe the technique for this? This was never explained in the brc
turn the bars in the opposite direction of the foot you want to put down as you stop.
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Old 06-01-2012, 12:26 PM   #11712
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turn the bars in the opposite direction of the foot you want to put down as you stop.
Okay that's what I thought and had been doing I just didn't know if I was missing something. Thanks
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Old 06-01-2012, 01:08 PM   #11713
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Vermont.

In all seriousness, I can think of at least a handful of intersections where I need to put my right foot rather than my left foot down (a decision I do try to make before I get there, 'cuz I'm not getting them both down at once in any meaningful way). Some of them are lousy intersections (Rt. 100 / Rt. 4 near the Killington Rd. / Rt 4 intersection can be interesting when turning left from Rt. 100 onto Rt. 4), others it has more to do with the cross road heading up or down a hill...and if uphill is to the right, that's the foot I need to use.
I know that one (100 /4). If you only had the right leg you could approach the intersection from the left portion of the lane and square up to the right. It's only if you want to maintain the 45 degree angle that you'd be so off camber that the only foot you could use is the left.

I bet that the guy with one leg does that sort of thing without even thinking about it.
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Old 06-01-2012, 01:14 PM   #11714
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Feet on the pegs as soon as the bike moves, if i drop the bike because of this, i'll stop riding.
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Old 06-01-2012, 02:50 PM   #11715
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My dad used to ride me to Kindergarten on his CB550 on his way to Avondale Shipyard. If you think 129 is a dangerous road try the Huey Long Bridge at 7:30am.
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