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Old 08-07-2012, 06:20 AM   #14311
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Well as a qualified trainer all I can say is that if this is your opinion then all your charges (students) will remain perpetual beginners.
and... she has.

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Old 08-07-2012, 06:23 AM   #14312
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and... she has.

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Old 08-07-2012, 06:48 AM   #14313
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You only have 100% traction to use. It can be used for braking, accelerating, or cornering.

It can be used in any combination of the above, so long as the combination does not exceed 100%!

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Unless you are running a car tire. Then you have 110%.
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Old 08-07-2012, 07:01 AM   #14314
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If so, she shouldn't be leading. I know people say they want to "watch" the new rider, but watch what, watch them crash? The speed that a new rider THINKS is "comfortable" going into a turn with may be too fast, like if the turn is decreasing radius and the new rider doesn't realize it. The new rider may not spot gravel in the road. Etc.

In general on open road IMHO the more experienced rider should lead. Maybe for some specific maneuver that's been discussed, you might send the new rider ahead to watch them do it, but that would be the exception. If the new rider is always in front they are not getting any guidance from observing by example from the experienced rider.
I don't want a new rider paying attention to me, I want them paying attention to the road.

I ride trail behind new riders because A) I can stop faster than they can, B) I block cars from sneaking up behind them, allowing the new rider to pay more attention to their front and sides, C) when they need to pull over to fix or address something, I can pull up behind them, versus having to watch them like a hawk in MY rear view mirrors when *I* need to be paying attention to the road, too.
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Old 08-07-2012, 07:08 AM   #14315
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I don't want a new rider paying attention to me, I want them paying attention to the road.

I ride trail behind new riders because A) I can stop faster than they can, B) I block cars from sneaking up behind them, allowing the new rider to pay more attention to their front and sides, C) when they need to pull over to fix or address something, I can pull up behind them, versus having to watch them like a hawk in MY rear view mirrors when *I* need to be paying attention to the road, too.
I prefer to ride behind my wife(new rider) when we're on a familiar road, and she knows exactly where we're going. Other wise I like to ride in front of her so she can concentrate on riding, and so there's no suprises if somethings waiting around a corner.
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Old 08-07-2012, 07:24 AM   #14316
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I prefer to ride behind my wife(new rider) when we're on a familiar road, and she knows exactly where we're going. Other wise I like to ride in front of her so she can concentrate on riding, and so there's no suprises if somethings waiting around a corner.
See, I'm the opposite. When the GF was learning, I figured she'd just go where she wants to go, and I can keep up. If I were leading on strange roads, again, she'd be inclined to pay attention to me and "Where is he going now?" versus paying attention to the road ahead. If she makes a weird turn, I can deal with surprises, I can follow her down a strange road.

Again, if she's behind me, I have to pay attention to what she's doing behind me, taking my eyes off the road ahead. So we BOTH end up distracted by each other, for no good reason.
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Old 08-07-2012, 07:37 AM   #14317
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Old 08-07-2012, 07:48 AM   #14318
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Oh, and shaft drives can't wheelie either. Not possible due to lots of complicated physics.



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Old 08-07-2012, 08:46 AM   #14319
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What do you mean, ? She has no shaft!
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Old 08-07-2012, 09:17 AM   #14320
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What do you mean, ? She has no shaft!
I would be willing to install one
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Old 08-07-2012, 10:52 AM   #14321
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Unless you are running a car tire. Then you have 110%.
Well, I'd say a car tire would provide about 110% of the traction compared to a street motorcycle tire, at the moderate lean angles an average cruiser is capable of.



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Old 08-07-2012, 11:24 AM   #14322
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Old 08-07-2012, 11:25 AM   #14323
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Old 08-07-2012, 01:16 PM   #14324
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Old 08-07-2012, 03:06 PM   #14325
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OMG. I think I'm in love. And what the hell is this picture doing in a "fail" thread? I see NO fail here.
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