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Old 08-07-2012, 03:14 PM   #14326
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OMG. I think I'm in love. And what the hell is this picture doing in a "fail" thread? I see NO fail here.
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Old 08-07-2012, 03:20 PM   #14327
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See, I'm the opposite. When the GF was learning, I figured she'd just go where she wants to go, and I can keep up. If I were leading on strange roads, again, she'd be inclined to pay attention to me and "Where is he going now?" versus paying attention to the road ahead. If she makes a weird turn, I can deal with surprises, I can follow her down a strange road.

Again, if she's behind me, I have to pay attention to what she's doing behind me, taking my eyes off the road ahead. So we BOTH end up distracted by each other, for no good reason.
Cue twighlight zone music, the original, not that glam vamp tosh. My GF is fresh on the road & this is a hot topic for us. I'm very happy to sit behind, watching traffic, watching my G/F & generally being a duck herder. Each ride I can draw her attention to things she is doing, good & bad. She wants me to ride in front so she can gauge her entry speed into corners better........................ Puts me right on the spot... On a recent ride she hit the brakes for 15 consecutive corners, I never touched them. Their is no way I feel comfortable leading her into a corner & potentially out of her comfort / safety zone even if I am trying to ride at her happy speed. As you say, it's hard enough watching the road for yourself without having to split your observation 50/50 to a following rider.
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Old 08-07-2012, 03:52 PM   #14328
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OMG. I think I'm in love. And what the hell is this picture doing in a "fail" thread? I see NO fail here.
no.. it was a reply to "shaft drive bikes can't wheelie"
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Old 08-07-2012, 04:15 PM   #14329
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no.. it was a reply to "shaft drive bikes can't wheelie"
Because nobody gets sarcasm on the Internet.
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Old 08-07-2012, 04:19 PM   #14330
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Old 08-07-2012, 04:42 PM   #14331
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How exactly will I live longer as a technician over being an artist ? And what exactly does my 17 year old daughter have to do with my previous post?

Again, many here could learn a thing or three from that family.
Your right GB.
Perhaps my daughter comment crossed the line.
The statement was meant in principal, not personal.
I have 2 kids (that ride) too.

Glad to see you had the gumption to post your feelings on that.
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Old 08-07-2012, 06:32 PM   #14332
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The fail here is that with only a little more effort and better timing he could have got that inside trailer wheel up.
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Old 08-07-2012, 07:12 PM   #14333
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Because nobody gets sarcasm on the Internet.
At least two of us get it.
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Old 08-07-2012, 09:17 PM   #14334
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The fail here is that with only a little more effort and better timing he could have got that inside trailer wheel up.
Not with that car tire!
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Old 08-08-2012, 01:12 AM   #14335
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The fail here is that with only a little more effort and better timing he could have got that inside trailer wheel up.
Ouch! That suggests a lifting moment by the trailer on the rear of the bike and it looks like the rotational motion of the ball-hitch is at it's limit so the trailer is going to want to apply a clockwise torque (anti-lean) to the bike. And given that he is well ahead of apexing the turn, is this getting ready to become an "Oh $%#&" moment?
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Old 08-08-2012, 05:08 AM   #14336
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At least two of us get it.
ah.. sarcasm... (the lowest for of wit)

and here I thought you were just another dumb Texan who thought a shaft drive bike couldn't wheelie due to "lots of complicated geometry"

I stand corrected



anyway.. gave me a good excuse to post that pic
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Old 08-08-2012, 05:14 AM   #14337
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At least two of us get it.
I got it, but still enjoyed the pic!

Someone once gave me a Virago, I don't have any pics (thank doG) but I used to wheelie it all the time.
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Old 08-08-2012, 05:39 AM   #14338
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Always let the newb you are training lead. That way the left turner will get them before they get you! When training new riders you might wanna think about how riders get in wrecks and die. If you can't ride slow enough to lead newbs, then don't train them. You can reduce the risk of the first and last by leading and being aware. You can reduce the second by leading and not riding too fast. Newbs don't know how fast to enter corners, so why would they be out in front? Dumb!!!

From the HURT report:

75% of accidents were found to involve a motorcycle and a passenger vehicle, while the remaining 25% of accidents were single motorcycle accidents.

"In the single vehicle accidents, motorcycle rider error was present as the accident precipitating factor in about two-thirds of the cases, with the typical error being a slide-out and fall due to overbraking or running wide on a curve due to excess speed or under-cornering."

In the multiple vehicle accidents, the driver of the other vehicle violated the motorcycle right-of-way and caused the accident in two-thirds of those accidents.

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Old 08-08-2012, 05:53 AM   #14339
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the typical error being a slide-out and fall due to overbraking or running wide on a curve due to excess speed or under-cornering."
So "layin' er down" and "target fixation", mostly.

Oh, and the left-turners to make up the other 75%.
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Old 08-08-2012, 06:03 AM   #14340
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Always let the newb you are training lead. That way the left turner will get them before they get you!
If a new rider isn't capable of paying attention to traffic in front of them without another rider in front of them, they should stay in the parking lot.

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When training new riders you might wanna think about how riders get in wrecks and die.
Doing stupid things. You know, like trying to keep up with the experienced rider in front of them versus riding their own ride at a pace they are comfortable with.

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Newbs don't know how fast to enter corners, so why would they be out in front? Dumb!!!
A rider paying attention to the speed of the bike in front of them ISN'T paying attention to the corner they're entering. Why give a "newb" *two* things to worry about instead of just one?

If you can't trust a new rider to take a corner at their own pace, then they don't belong on the road yet, but back in the parking lot circling cones.

We'll agree to disagree.

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